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Chevrolet TrailBlazer, GMC Envoy, Buick Rainier, GMC Envoy XL, Isuzu Ascender, Oldsmobile Bravada, SUV
#6218 of 18329 Binding/Rear End Chatter....
Jun 02, 2002 (10:40 am)
I had the exact same issue with my 1996 GMC Jimmy and 1997 Oldsmobile Bravada with the locking differentials. I would notice that when making a left-hand turn from a traffic light, I would feel this "slippage" or "gear-grinding chatter" about 50% of the time until I completed my turn.
The dealer's changed the locking differential fluid and viola! No more "slippage." It's kind of odd to see that this issue has now surfaced because my Envoy has 10,000K on it now and I noticed the "slippage" yesterday for the first time!! Also, yesterday was by far the warmest day in Michigan yet this entire year, therefore this problem definitely could be temperature related. I kind of made a mental note in my head about the slippage and will more than likely address this with my servicing dealership before summers end. I just want to see if the condition will get progressively worse over time. Additionally, this "slippage" that I felt yesterday did not quite feel the same as that of my 96 and 97's, maybe because the components used are much more advanced? My 96 & 97's felt like a gear slipping and chattering that you could definitely feel. My Envoy for the most part, kind of felt like my tires might have been spinning on oil or something.. I didn't quite hear the chatter, but at the same time, the BOSE was fully engaged as well. At first I was quite alarmed because I thought that it could have been the transmission, but who knows! Just my .02 cents!
#6219 of 18329 Question????????????????
Jun 02, 2002 (10:48 am)
They (whoever they are) refer to the new Trail Blazer, Envoy and Old's Bravada as the triplets.
Why is that???
The only thing the Bravada has in common with the TB and Envoy is the numerous mechanical problems and maybe the cost of the vehicle. Other than that the Bravada is in the same family or class as the old S10 Blazer and the GMC Jimmy .
No particular reason just curious, but VERY VERY glad to be rid of my 95 S10 Blazer
and VERY VERY happy with my Buick RDV.
#6220 of 18329 Triplets = Same Body Series = Same Assembly Line
Jun 02, 2002 (2:52 pm)
The reason why these three are called the triplets is that they are pretty much for the most part identical vehicles; sporting a very high percentage of interior/exterior components in addition to the same body frame. These vehicles are produced in Moraine, OH (basically Dayton, OH) and all three roll off of the same assembly lines in the assembly plant.
Even though they may appear differently exterior-wise, they do share almost 100% of the same components (with the exception of the AWD system used in the Bravada).
Hope that helps! BTW.. Before purchasing your Bravada, have you looked at the other two? If not, please stroll by your friendly GMC or Chevy dealership and peek into the window & carefully look at the exterior of these vehicles. Immediately you should be able to see that these vehicles share the same underpinnings as your Bravada (from the power window buttons to the ECAS suspension with the rear compressor housing.. the similiarities should be quite easy to find).
#6221 of 18329 Thanks IExplore2000......
Jun 02, 2002 (3:55 pm)
I was under the impression that the Bravada had the same body components as the S10 Blazer not the new TB. Thanks for clearing that up.
I don't think I would buy another Blazer. I had some real problems with my 95 SLE 4x4 and from the postings in your forum the new TB doesn't seem to be any better.
#6222 of 18329 Load levelling suspension included in Envoy XL 1SK package?
Jun 02, 2002 (5:20 pm)
I got my Envoy XL SLT 4wd with the 1SK package, and the sticker does NOT list the load-levelling suspension, however, the GMC website and certainly all the other sites like Edmunds, Kelly, Autosite etc. seem to imply that the load-levelling suspension is built into this package.
Just wondering if anyone knows if the suspension is included. I'm not likely to be towing anything or certainly not anything very big, and given the problems people have been having with the suspension it's probably a good thing not to have it, but still, I'm curious...the air compressor seems like a nice gizmo to have.
In other news...my wife drives it most of the time, I only drive it on weekends and with 1,500 miles on it so far, no major problems (except the "wandering mirror" when reversing, and that too only for Driver 2).
#6223 of 18329 No problems here!
Jun 02, 2002 (7:23 pm)
I'll echo the recent "love my Envoy" comments (build date in April 2002). I'm at 2,000 miles and not a single problem. Averaging about 18 to the gallon (combo city and highway).
I battled back and forth on whether to wait for the new Honda Pilot. Saw it this weekend...it's a great car/truck. However, it's missing quite a few of the SLT extra's that I would miss, i.e,. sunroof, heated seats, 6 disk changer, memory seats. I also think the Envoy has it beat in the styling department.
For those of you reading this forum with a purchase still to make, I would highly recommend the Envoy.
#6224 of 18329 Load Leveling Suspension... RE: rj123456
Jun 02, 2002 (8:26 pm)
Actually you are correct, the Envoy with the 1SK package is supposed to come with the load leveling suspension. Someone actually posted a message to this forum several weeks ago concerning a backorder delay on the ECAS and therefore GMC was substituting the regular coil spring setup as opposed to the ECAS system?
I may be wrong concerning this but I would suggest that you open your driver's side door and inspect the vehicle label to see when your vehicle was built. IF it was built within the past couple of months, your vehicle may fall into the time-frame when GM substituted the coil spring suspension setup.
Additionally, I know that the search feature on this forum doesn't work that well, but maybe the person who posted the message concerning the suspension substitution will see this message and be able to respond.
#6225 of 18329 Oil Consumption
Jun 02, 2002 (10:15 pm)
Checked my oil recently and it was down to the bottom hole on the dip stick. Took it to the dealer and they check it and said that this was normal consumption for the vehicle. It has 12K miles and has had 4000 put on it since the last oil change. Maybe this is why we have a 7qt oil capacity?. The "spec" from GM was that it will burn a qt every couple of thousand miles. Can anyone verify this?
#6226 of 18329 5998 Load Leveling Suspension... RE: rj123456 by iexplore2000
Jun 02, 2002 (10:30 pm)
iexplore, thanks for your reply...
My build date is 4/02. So if GM substituted the coil spring, can I get a rebate, or are they going to retrofit this later?
Jun 03, 2002 (5:12 am)
Does anyone else have a problem with their gas gauge bobbing up and down?
For example, this morning while driving to work i had 3/4 of a tank of gas, while driving to work, it would bob between 1/2 and 3/4 (this is on a flat stretch of I-95). Most of the time it would hover somewhere inbetween 1/2 & 3/4 but when I parked and put the car in park, it shot down to 1/2. Funny thing is that I turned the car off and back on and it went up to almost 3/4 again!
Has anyone else had this problem?