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#4737 of 18329 2002 Bravada
Mar 26, 2002 (6:48 pm)
Since this is my first posting, I would like to start off by saying thanks to everyone on this board! I have owned my 2002 Bravada for 5 months and have found this board to be very useful. I have experienced all the same problems as other owners; wandering mirrors, paint chipping around plastic insert in the tail gate, sagging head liner, cold engine high RPM 1st gear shift, loose front fascia, etc., but I still love the vehicle.
The Bose system is awesome, the power is 1st class and the ride is smooth.
As for the paint problem and wandering mirrors, I wrote Oldsmobile the following email:
Please treat this notification as an official request for action on the following two items. Both items are applicable to all Envoy, TrailBlazer and Bravada vehicles.
1. Wandering outside rear view mirrors. Periodically, upon remote unlock, the outside mirrors lose their last saved memory position and wander to a new position. This has been reported to the NHTSA, as this is a safety concern. Please reference ODI number: 759768.
2. Paint chipping around license plastic insert in tail gate. It appears the plastic insert expands and contracts at a different rate than the metal tail gate, causing the sharp plastic edges to remove the paint around the perimeter of the plastic insert. This can be seen on any Envoy/TrailBlazer/Bravada that has sat in a garage, then park outside in the sun.
I received the following response from Oldsmobile:
General Motors is aware of the mirror concern you are experiencing with your vehicle. Our engineers
are currently working on a fix to your concern. General Motors and its dealers attempt to help
customers in every way reasonably possible to maintain their satisfaction with their products. The terms of the New Vehicle Limited Warranty provide for the repair or replacement of any part proven to be defective in material or workmanship.
Although this may be an inconvenient situation for you, we encourage you to continue to work with your dealer. They are in the best position to advise you when a fix will be out for your concern. If you have any further questions, please contact us again and refer to your request number, C-06585187.
For your paint concern, we suggest you contact your local Chevrolet dealer to verify if there is a defect.
Sorry for the book, but since this board has been so helpful, I wanted to repay the service.
Mar 26, 2002 (9:38 pm)
Welcome aboard! Thanks for the wonderful input and we hope to hear a lot more from you here!
#4739 of 18329 On-Star Subscription
Mar 27, 2002 (6:39 am)
My initial one year is up and wanted to get some opinions. Is there anyone who is going to continue with it. I don't find it worth it and it's pretty expensive for something you never use. I've never used it once except for the personal calling. The bad thing is that you can't keep personal calling without a subscription to the service. Any thoughts???
#4740 of 18329 Tire pressure and oil filters
Mar 27, 2002 (8:06 am)
At 3,000 miles I did the usual maintenance, including check the tires. 42psi!
Anyone else encounter that? I know the manufacturer jacks up the air pressure for transportation, so the dealer obviously dropped the ball. This would be the same dealer that installed the roof rack cross bars backwards.
Also, my TB LS came with a PF59 oil filter (build date 11/01). The manual says use a PF58, but Autozone says go with the PF59. The dealer said use what the manual specifies, "but why don't you let us change it for you when the light comes on" (I'll bet they'll check the air in the tires too). Anyone know the difference between these two filters?
6,000 miles and I need to change the oil again. The light still hasn't come on.
#4741 of 18329 re:4552 oil filter
Mar 27, 2002 (8:14 am)
The pf 59 has a antidrainback check valve and is slightly larger, vertical mounted filter will not experience drainback so either will do.
#4742 of 18329 Tire Pressure
Mar 27, 2002 (8:49 am)
Yup, when I got my Envoy last month, I checked the tire pressure and they were all at 40 PSI. I checked mine as soon as I got it home, because I know that it is rare for a dealer to check or adjust the tire pressure after delivery.
#4743 of 18329 Pepper50: Floor Mats
Mar 27, 2002 (9:14 am)
The Catch-All mats do have an approx. 1/2" lip around the edge -- I have not had any problem with catching my foot (or passengers that I have noticed) on the lip when entering/exiting the vehicle. The lips is not that high. What the lips does is keep sand/dirt/water from getting anywhere on the floor of the vehicle. They are kind of expensive ($143 for 2-piece front, 1-piece rear seat mats, including delivery), but I wanted mats that were "carpeted", washable and had the lip to keep stuff off the floor of the vehicle.
#4744 of 18329 Driver Side Left Foot Rest
Mar 27, 2002 (11:38 am)
Is there anything out there to prevent the carpet around the left foot rest from wearing out? My Envoy's carpet is already showing signs of wear there, on the carpet around the rubber foot rest. (27K miles).
#4745 of 18329 To John Giddens
Mar 27, 2002 (12:10 pm)
Do you have the black or clear anodized side steps? Would they fit on my Envoy? I was quoted $430 for the pair, $350 for the original running boards that come on some Envoys. Did the dealer have to order them. I was told installation would be about $150.
I appreciate it.
#4746 of 18329 Ralfo: OnStar
Mar 27, 2002 (12:25 pm)
I have mixed emotion about the OnStar. Since it can only work with an intact electrical system, if you're stranded with a dead battery or other electrical problem, it's not going to help any. Seems like a cellphone would still be needed. I guess the OnStar advantage would be mainly to those who wanted to use its email capability, concierge services, etc.