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What is this discussion about? Chevrolet TrailBlazer, GMC Envoy, Buick Rainier, GMC Envoy XL, Isuzu Ascender, Oldsmobile Bravada, SUV


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For Hardhawk, RE: GM Rubber Floormats by bryancos
Aug 04, 2001 (9:45 am)
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Tell your dealer's parts dept to take a hike, and check out: mats4less:

FOR ENVOY:
http://www.mats4less.com/envoy.html

FOR TRAILBLAZER:
http://www.mats4less.com/trailblazer.html
 
FOR BRAVADA:
http://www.mats4less.com/bravada.html

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One Year Free Onstar??????????? by richardc4
Aug 04, 2001 (2:26 pm)
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Like many I bought my Envoy in late March and it sat the entire month of April locked in a dealer's lot waiting for parts. When I bought the car perhaps I missed something, so someone might be able to enlighten me. I was led to believe that I had one full year of OnStar free of charge. I've tried to use it several times and a message always comes back saying "Invalid tag." I've also tried to "dial" the number with the same results. I called OnStar and was told that if I didn't use it the first month it was gone. Since my vehicle had been recalled and I couldn't even touch it for the first month let alone use it I find this a bit confusing. To me, free for a year means free for a year. Any suggestions?
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Air Conditioning and Rattling doors. by flyguy5
Aug 04, 2001 (5:35 pm)
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I've got a TB with Manual air. Temps out here are in the 90 and if I am stopped at a light (engine not revving) the coldness of the air deminishes considerably. The power of the flow is there but the temp must come up by at least 10-15 degrees. I am going to have them look at it next time it goes in. I also have the problem of the front doors rattling on washboard roads as was mentioned in the MT article. Guess they all have it, but this only happens when you really push it hard on dirt roads so I can probably live with it.
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re: steve_HOST by hambone7
Aug 04, 2001 (5:43 pm)
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I don't think I implied that 4 and 5 cylinder engines are ever anything but inline in a car. 4 cylinder motorcycle engines can have a V configuration. A 5 cylinder V configuration makes no sense at all. So...I don't know why you threw that comment ("all car 4 and 5 cylinder engines are inline design") out there...
 
GM has employed some technological advances with this brand new engine (note: this inline 6 engine is new, not the technology of an inline 6). Inline motors should be more reliable but that's not the rule. For example, there is one head and head gasket on an inline motor but two on a V shaped motor (more parts to fail)...that's one example of why an inline 6 inherently is more reliable (but it doesn't always work out that way).
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Gas Mileage by 2002blazer
Aug 05, 2001 (6:51 pm)
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On the Positive side my TB-LTZ is getting pretty good gas mileage (19-21)with 3.73 gears. Accelerates very fast, plenty of power for passing or expressway driving. Not burning any oil, no rattles, or vibrations. On Star works good, a few problems at first getting an answer, but after insisting that they get everything right have had no problems. The radio volumn fading when I come to a stop is a nusiance, but I can live with it.
 
However the rear end (been totally replaced), the transmission not shifting right. The AC not working. Power mirrors and power seat moving at random, and a few other weird things happening make me wonder why I decided to buy this TB.
 
The TB is going in the shop tomorrow will post the results of the repairs when I get it back. Anyone with similar problems I would enjoy hearing from you.
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Hardhawk's search (2002 Envoy running board part #) by jw4gm
Aug 06, 2001 (4:07 am)
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Hardhawk: Thanks so much for your search for running board part numbers. I'm surprised the boards are not stamped, but oh well. I'm pretty determined and will get my running boards sometime. Again, thanks for your effort.
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Trip odometers (#1846) by jht
Aug 06, 2001 (4:33 am)
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I don't know about the Envoy, but the Bravada has dual trip odometers (accessed through the DIC), so I'd think the other triplets would have them, too.
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Power mirror problems? by vfont
Aug 06, 2001 (6:05 am)
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I've had a weird problem with the power mirrors since I got my Envoy. They don't remember their positions. I have the Seat Position Recall setting in the DIC set to Remote. Most of the time when I open just the driver's door, the mirrors will stay at the correct positions. If I open the passenger doors by clicking twice on the remote, the mirrors go haywire. The right one is especially bad, sometimes pointing toward the sky, sometimes toward the ground. I swear that sometimes they even move while the vehicle is in motion. The dealer so far has reprogrammed both of my remotes and the problem has minimized but it is still there.
 
The work around I've found so far is to press the driver 2 button then press driver 1 and the mirrors will return to the correct position. I also changed the setting for Seat Position Recall to active on Key insert. I'll be bringing it back to the dealer again to see what else they can do.
 
Because the mirrors move while the vehicle is in motion and I believe this can compromise safety, I've filed the issue with the NHTSA.
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To jddobak by mfullmer
Aug 06, 2001 (9:00 am)
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Trip Odo.
 
If you have the DIC system you have two trip odometers. To see them press the "odo" button on the steering wheel (not the one on the instrument panel), it's the one that is on the left top (above the one for fuel data).
 
Tinting.
 
Many states do not allow after market tinting on the front windows. It's dangerous both for visibility and for law enforcement. There are no manufacturers that provide a dark tint for the windshield or front side windows.
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Richard C4 by mfullmer
Aug 06, 2001 (9:05 am)
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Yes, you have one year of free Onstar.
 
You are getting two things mixed up but you still may have a problem.
 
First: What the Onstar person told you was in reference to the "free minutes" for the cell phone use of the Onstar system. As on most cell phone systems, minutes expire. You have to buy minutes to use the cell phone feature each month.
 
Second: You have a year of Standard or Premium Onstar service included with your vehicle (depending on the option package you chose). That includes the Onstar features but has nothing to do with the cell phone feature. If you are having a problem it's because the dealer did not set it up (or set it up properly).
 
Did the dealer "set-up" the Onstar system when you got the vehicle? That is, did you sit in the vehicle and "talk" to Onstar for about 10 minutes giving information about yourself and the vehicle with the dealer? If not, then they have to in order to get the service. If that is the case, it will be a year from when it is set up, so you won't "lose" any time.

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