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Re: Tire Recommendation For TB [yatesd]
by cebteb
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Jul 02, 2008 (10:04 am)
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Replying to: yatesd (Jun 19, 2008 4:23 pm)
How in the world did you get 75K miles on your Bravada's Michelin Cross-Terrain tires? Yes, they are a great tire and I plan to replace them in kind on my 2003 Bravada, but that is with just under 40K miles on them. I've had the dealer and another shop tell me the thread is at replacement level and I've measured it myself using Consumer Reports thread depth recommendation and they are telling the truth. So, before the snow falls, October here in Colorado, I'll be putting a new set of Michelin X-Terrains on my Bravada, but I'll still be under 40K miles.
BTW, the latest consumer alert regarding tires over 6 years old (side-wall deterioration due to aging of the tire compounds) also would impact my tires if I keep them beyond this year. They were manufactured in August 2002.
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- #18148 of 18224
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Re: Tire Recommendation For TB [cebteb]
by wlbrown9
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Jul 02, 2008 (12:18 pm)
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Replying to: cebteb (Jul 02, 2008 10:04 am)
I got about 62K miles on a 2004 Envoy XL Michelin Cross Terrain tires. Just replaced at Sears a few weeks ago as they were on sale for $169 +installation+road hazard+etc. WalMart and Sam's were up over $200 each before add-ons and tax. The Cross Terrains were not all the way down to wear bars, 4/16 to 6/16 remaining IIRC. Still legal, but they were getting as low as I like to go on tires. I had not rotated them in probably 30K miles so they were just a little uneven. I seem to recall looking at them a year or so ago and it seem the tires have gone up at least $20-30 each since then. IMHO just another cost jump due to high oil prices.
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- #18149 of 18224
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Re: Tire Recommendation For TB [wlbrown9]
by cebteb
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Jul 02, 2008 (4:35 pm)
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Replying to: wlbrown9 (Jul 02, 2008 12:18 pm)
$200 per tire before the add-ons and taxes is outrageous! I purchased sports car performance tires in past years and have never paid more that $130 per tire. I think there is a lot more inflation in our economy than the Fed is paying attention to. Time to tighten up the Funds rate and discount rate at the Fed before we are paying $300 per tire.
I also noticed that there aren't the constant tire sale ads in the local papers like there used to be a few years ago. Something has definitely changed in this market in the five years or so since I last bought tires for anything.
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- #18150 of 18224
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Re: Tire Recommendation For TB [cebteb]
by steve_ HOST
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Jul 02, 2008 (5:42 pm)
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Replying to: cebteb (Jul 02, 2008 4:35 pm)
Lots of oil goes into tires. And they weigh a bit, so shipping costs have gone up.
"the price of oil, now at all-time highs, makes up 60% of the raw materials cost for a tire. Natural rubber, a commodity nearing 28-year price highs, makes up another 25%."
As tire prices rise, drivers delay purchases (USA Today)
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- #18151 of 18224
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Re: Tire Recommendation For TB [steve_]
by wlbrown9
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Jul 03, 2008 (8:30 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 02, 2008 5:42 pm)
The increase I saw at Walmart and Sams encouraged me to go ahead and pull the trigger on the sale price at Sears...before those go up as well. I had gotten more than enough miles from the first set and if I get 40-50K miles from the second set I will be at or over the replace the vehicle time and mileage. I think consumers that were already stretched before this last years run up in prices are really feeling the pain now and it will probably only get worse for the next year or two. I hate to predict past that since we are where I thought we would be maybe 4-5 years from now... This has been crazy and I don't see where it will end in the short term.
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- #18152 of 18224
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Help changing plugs in 04 Rainer
by excel1
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Aug 09, 2008 (9:28 am)
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I am wanting to change the plugs in my 04 Raineer. I have never changed any with the individual coil packs. Does anyone have any advise?
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- #18153 of 18224
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Re: Front differential leak? [seiford]
by ghof7254
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Aug 10, 2008 (7:51 am)
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Replying to: seiford (Apr 04, 2008 5:50 pm)
As to the front differential leaking, I too have the same problem, I took my 2003 Envoy 64,000 MI in March 5 2008 -- was told the seal is leakig and had it repaired, I thought. In july I again noticed oil on the garage floor. I took it back to the shop that replaced the seal and was told the same thing, it is a design flaw and hard to repair, and that even if I repaired it again it would probably still leak????? The first time it was $885.42 and my extended warranty covered all but the $50 deduct. I was also told that the warranty might not cover it again if it was replaced again so I have to have it checked every so often and add fluid if needed, HOW STUPID IS THAT???.
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- #18154 of 18224
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Re: Help changing plugs in 04 Rainer [excel1]
by wlbrown9
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Aug 11, 2008 (2:07 pm)
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Replying to: excel1 (Aug 09, 2008 9:28 am)
I have not looked at the Rainer/Envoy/Trailblazer plugs and coil packs. I will look at them soon since it is about time to change the plugs on my wife's Envoy. If the coil packs are similiar to the ones on my '00 Trooper it is possible that one or more will be difficult to break loose from the plug. Trooper has a rubber tube covering the spring down from the coil to connet to the plug..tend to get stuck and difficult to remove. IF that happens do not try and force them off since they can tear and if that happens you might have to replace the complete coil pack. Take compressed air and blow down the center of the rubber tube and it will pop right off. I used one of those small 'compressor' you can get for $20-$30 for inflate your tires...worked real well using one of the pointed inflater tips that came with it. You could probably even use a manual pump but might need assistance to hold it in place.
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- #18155 of 18224
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Trailblazer, Envoy and Rainier
by earlc
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Aug 14, 2008 (4:25 pm)
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Do any of you know if GM has discontinued the Trailblazer, Envoy and Rainier. I heard that neither one would be produced after the '08 models but I haven;t been able to confirm this. Thanks
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- #18156 of 18224
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Re: Trailblazer, Envoy and Rainier [earlc]
by wlbrown9
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Aug 15, 2008 (6:49 am)
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Replying to: earlc (Aug 14, 2008 4:25 pm)
I went to gmsupplierdiscount.com and looked under the incentives they list... None of these were showing up in the list of 2009 models but were there for the 2008's. Interesting that they were showing $6000 incentives on the 2008s. But that does not really confirm either way.
Edit... I next went to www.gm.com, selected GMC, then went to Build Your Own.. chose 2009 and the Envoy does show up there. So, maybe they are still building them after all.
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