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Chevrolet TrailBlazer, GMC Envoy, Buick Rainier, GMC Envoy XL, Isuzu Ascender, Oldsmobile Bravada, SUV
#17464 of 18329 Re: Why Did You Buy a Triplet? [gmfan]
Dec 06, 2005 (2:59 pm)
We have what I call our accidental SUV. I wanted a Honda Pilot for my wife to go skiing and the Honda dealers would not give me what I wanted for a low mileage 2001 Accord V6. I stopped by the local Buick dealer and drove a I6 Rainier. It may have had the 4:10 gears, as you had to really push it to make it cruise on the freeway. So I hopped in a V8 model and it has been in the garage for 9 or 10 months now. They gave me good money for the Honda and the 2004 Demo was a steal of a deal.
Other than needing better cup holders in the front, lack of storage pockets and poor mileage, it is a really nice rig. I would have preferred manual control of the 4x4 function, and have read not so good of reports on the AWD. So, I got new takeoff wheels out of Arizona at a good price and put four studded Les Schwab Winter Cat SST tires on it. They are 245/65R17 and Michelins are 255/60R17 so the size is about the same. Drives great with the snow tires which are the Cooper Discoverer M&S rebadges. Going to try 35 lbs on air in the front in the spring when the Mich's go back on.
The Rainier is the CXL Plus with all options except the side air bags, DVD and Nav. We listen to the XM radio most of the time.
Buick service is very good. They installed the running boards as a TSB to prevent the paint chipping on the lower panels and there is now a TSB for the thump in the V8 climate control system. I signed up for a web site that provides the TSB for 12.95 per year. Good Deal!
This is a very quiet vehicle on the road. The control panel warned of possible icy roads coming home from Seattle Sunday night.
The Rainier is really my wife vehicle and she loves the sharp turning for parking at the mall etc. She also likes a bit of power, which the V8 has in spades. I get better mileage driving it than she does! So I guess she uses the power from time to time.
Head light dimmer is weird. It is push forward for hi beam and pull back for low. What happen to klicking it???? Cruise Control should have been on the steering wheel, wait, already 18 buttons on it!!!! Dual climate control is good for two people that run at different temps. It fits in the garage well with my Ram Pickup.
#17465 of 18329 Re: Why Did You Buy a Triplet? [snoking]
Dec 06, 2005 (6:17 pm)
I have had my 4WD Envoy SLT since July of 2001. 51,000 miles and still love it. Have had a few issues but all have been rectified by the dealer without a problem. I did get the extended warranty just to be sure. Bought it because it could pull our 5000# boat/trailer yet was still a midsize, had tons of style, had tons of luxury features, was comfortable to drive, and got decent mileage. Still have essentially a brand new loking vehicle yet it is 4 model years old and had all of the original high content. If it was gone tomorrow would seriously look at the new Denali Envoy. Despite the minor naggles, it has been an excellent vehicle and I plan to keep it until it dies many years from now.
#17466 of 18329 Re: Why Did You Buy a Triplet? [raleigh]
Dec 06, 2005 (8:28 pm)
I bought a '03 Envoy SLT and got very good service from it. The only thing I found lacking was the engine. When the '05 Envoy Denali was released I bought one, as it has the 5.3L V8. Did I need a V8? No, I wanted a V8. the 5.3L is a great engine, and no real difference in mpg vs the 4.2L. Lots more torque. Really like the tight turning radius. Now if they would just put the LS2 engine in the Envoy like the TB has..........
#17467 of 18329 Re: Gas Smell [b36]
Dec 07, 2005 (1:55 pm)
I have an 04 Envoy and have not experienced any gas smell. Can you be a little more specific as to the circumstances under which you smell it? Engine hot or cold? Recirc on or off? Windows open or closed? How long does the smell persist? You should never be able to smell gas in a vehicle. If you do, something is wrong and the dealer should bend over backwards to find the source. Quite often, it turns out to be a defective gas cap.
Dec 08, 2005 (2:08 am)
I have a new house with a low garage door. I have to get rid of the roof rack or get rid of the Envoy XL. Is there any problem with getting rid of the rack? Is it difficult to get off?
Any suggestions for sealing the bolt holes? And can it be re-installed when I sell the Envoy?
#17469 of 18329 Re: Removing the Roof Rack [7golfcharlie]
Dec 08, 2005 (7:07 am)
If it was me and my plan was to put it back on, I would use clear silicone to seal the holes, a non-paintable type that will stay pliable so it can be removed easily. You would need to check it from time to time as it may wear off due to exposure to sun, rain, wind, etc.
#17470 of 18329 Re: Removing the Roof Rack [7golfcharlie]
Dec 08, 2005 (9:34 am)
Remove the crossbars first. The roof rack is held on by 6 or 7 long screws on each side that use a torq head screw driver to remove. (Some folks just use allen wrenches instead of the torq head.) Once the rack is removed, you can also get some rivets at the Ace hardware store and put some silicone around them and in the holes. Will keep water out and can be easily removed to reinstall the roof rack. You will find some dirt around where the roof rack was mounted. Get a good polish to remove any dirt. The roof is much easier to wash without the rack.
You will still have a noticeable raise in your roof with the XL. Take the rack off and see if it is objectionable to you.
#17471 of 18329 Re: Why Did You Buy a Triplet? [hardhawk]
Dec 09, 2005 (7:34 am)
Many years from now--don't hold your breath!! I have a 2002 Envoy SLT with 50,000 miles now in the shop getting a new compressor for that great ECAS system to the tune of $1000.00. It also needed a new starter at 18,000 miles. I've been trying to sell the thing since the warranty expired---I should have tried harder--my instincts were right--I'd take a Hyundai with a 100,000 mile warranty any day over this crap--
#17472 of 18329 Re: Why Did You Buy a Triplet? [lambo4]
Dec 09, 2005 (9:39 am)
That Hyundai 100K warranty isn't bumper to bumper.
#17473 of 18329 Re: Why Did You Buy a Triplet? [01_hoe]
Dec 09, 2005 (10:52 am)
I bought my Bravada because of the looks, ride, and powertrain. The discounts made it seem like a good value. In hindsight it wasn't. GM took it back and gave me an Envoy in return. That hasn't been much better. More problems with these 2 vehicles than the combined total of vehicles I've owned in the previous 20 years!