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What is this discussion about? Chevrolet TrailBlazer, GMC Envoy, Buick Rainier, GMC Envoy XL, Isuzu Ascender, Oldsmobile Bravada, SUV

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#16976 of 18329 Re: HELP - Honest Opinion on the 2005 Trailblazer [gam2] by imadad2

Jul 12, 2005 (7:38 am)

Replying to: gam2 (Jul 12, 2005 5:20 am)
I have an 04 TB Ext. Love it. The wind noise was a problem, but I solved that by adding window seal tape around the door frames. I would have had a dealer do it, but they wanted me to come back in a month. I also had to bring the truck in to have the turn signals repaired. Other than that, no problems what so ever.
 
The TB has a unique look that I just love. I think it looks better than anything out there. I have to love the look of a vehicle in order to enjoy it. I looked at the Pilot, but the design just did not turn me on. So, ask yourself which vehicle do you like better?
 
Resale. Are you going to drive your TB into the ground? Or are you going to buy a new vehicle in three or four years? If you are not going to drive the TB into the ground, the resale of the Toyota is better.
 
Quality. I agree that Toyota's have better quality, but is it worth the extra $5,000? IMO, no. I was able to get my TB for a lot less than the competition. Ford could not even compete. I know the resale will be nothing, but I plan on having my kids drive the TB when they get older. If I had a choice between the Toyota and the Chevrolet and the price was identical, I'd have gone with the Toyota.
 
GM has been getting a bad rep lately, but I feel they have the kinks worked out of the TB. I have always been told to never buy a Chevy in it's first two years of production. I read this board daily, and I see 2002 & 2003 model year complaints more than anything. Even though Chevy took out some nice features in the 2005 model, I still feel it is a good truck for the money. If $26K is the employee discount price, I would even try to get that lower.
 
Don't let the "Employee Price" fool you. GM still makes money. Try to get more. Oil changes, free tires, etc.
 
I hope this helps.

#16977 of 18329 Re: Ignition [longdistancetb] by ross1962

Jul 12, 2005 (12:05 pm)

Replying to: longdistancetb (Jul 12, 2005 1:16 am)
If you "hang" a lot of keys off off your ignition switch, you are increasing the odds of having ignition switch problems
 
I'll second that one - it's happened to me.

#16978 of 18329 Re: HELP - Honest Opinion on the 2005 Trailblazer [imadad2] by gam2

Jul 12, 2005 (12:57 pm)

Replying to: imadad2 (Jul 12, 2005 7:38 am)
Funny thing about Employee Pricing, in many cases you were able to get a better deal before this program started as the rebates were bigger. As long as you could get close to invoice, which wasn't hard in most cases. I guess this is the no haggle way!
 
Greg

#16979 of 18329 Re: HELP - Honest Opinion on the 2005 Trailblazer [gam2] by ross1962

Jul 12, 2005 (2:43 pm)

Replying to: gam2 (Jul 12, 2005 12:57 pm)
The GMS pricing (Employee) and the Invoice price are not the same thing. In my case, the GMS price was about $1000 less than invoice. GMS is what it costs the dealership to get the car on their lot. This can include shipping and any advertising costs incurred.

#16981 of 18329 Re: HELP - Honest Opinion on the 2005 Trailblazer [ross1962] by gam2

Jul 13, 2005 (5:20 am)

Replying to: ross1962 (Jul 12, 2005 2:43 pm)
Thing is, cash rebates were higher before this offer. A friend bought a Trailblazer
before the Employee pricing and saved $700. I think rebates were $1500 more at that time.
 
Hey, no doubt it's working for GM. It's just going to make it that much more difficult to sell a car at list price in the future.
 
Greg

#16982 of 18329 Ascender Vibration Lemon by 60hzpush

Jul 13, 2005 (5:39 am)

I have posted here before about a 2003 Ascender with a vibration 65mph. After 2 new reaerends, 2 new driveshafts and 2 new transfer cases the vibration is still there. The vehicle has been at the dealers a total of 38 days. Isuzu wont cover loaner cars. What a nightmare this thing has been. Please dont buy Izusu products. They dont stand behind their product. i've filled for Lemon law, I want my money back.

#16983 of 18329 Re: HELP - Honest Opinion on the 2005 Trailblazer [jrwpmw] by gmfan

Jul 13, 2005 (5:40 am)

Replying to: jrwpmw (Jul 11, 2005 12:34 pm)
I think the gap in quality b/w GM and Toyota and Honda has been significantly reduced within the past ten years. GM trucks and SUV's are second to none in my opinion. I have an 02 TB with 70K miles and really enjoy it, but I am a perfectionist, and my wife tells me I pick apart every vehicle I have ever owned. Oh well, that is my personality. The more I drive the vehicle, the more I continue to like it and be impressed. I think the TB is one of the best riding SUV's out there and I am very confident with the drivetrain. If I were to purchase a 4-runner, I would buy the model with the V-8, but for that kind of money, I would just purchase a Tahoe, a proven winner. I think the 4-runner is femine-looking, in fact, I think all Japense SUV's look femine and soft, which is why I do not purchase them. I would also say the TB has the superior engine and drivetrain, which is what I really factor in choosing a vehicle. The TB engine is a top ten engine in the world according to several reviews.

#16984 of 18329 Re: Ascender Vibration Lemon [60hzpush] by tidester

Jul 13, 2005 (6:48 am)

Replying to: 60hzpush (Jul 13, 2005 5:39 am)
Please repost your message in the Isuzu Ascender discussion. I have reopened it for you since it had auto-archived.
 
tidester, host

#16985 of 18329 Re: HELP - Honest Opinion on the 2005 Trailblazer [gam2] by dmathews3

Jul 13, 2005 (7:33 am)

Replying to: gam2 (Jul 12, 2005 12:57 pm)
I find the greatest thing about employee pricing is if you have a trade. Just take it to all the GM dealers and who ever gives you the most for your trade get the business as the vehicle is the same price no matter what. I also shop after hours so I can find the vehicle I want and then write down the vin as the dealers can do a dealer trade for the one you want as long as the dealer with it don't know you are interested.

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