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Replying to: mrgem (Jun 28, 2005 12:59 pm) My 02 TB has 69K miles and I have the original brakes and rotors and have zero rotar warping problems. In fact, this SUV's brakes are better and higher quality and lasting longer than a Durango and Grand Cherokee I used to own. The brakes calipers are powerful using double pistons for strong stopping power. It is likely a "driving style" issue, but it could be defective brake system. If you speed and brake hard, then the life of the brake system can be significantly impacted. However, 5,000 miles is too soon in my opinion unless she is a crazy driver. I would make sure the dealer "replaces" the front rotars next time, do not allow them to "turn" them, and then monitor the situation. My wife's Lexus RX 300 had new brakes and rotars at 16K miles because Lexus used hard pads that were damaging the rotars. It was all covered under warranty. - In other words, every vehicle, including the "perfect" Lexus has issues. But, I am not aware of the Envoy, TB, or Bravada having braking issues. Anyone else on the forum that differs? -gmfan
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Replying to: gmfan (Jun 29, 2005 5:05 am)
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Replying to: wrenchspin2 (Jun 28, 2005 6:42 am) You said "I've never been very impressed with the brakes on this truck (compared to other SUV's I've owned)," - What other SUV's have better brakes?
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Replying to: imadad2 (Jun 29, 2005 5:35 am)
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Replying to: fyreman235 (Jun 29, 2005 10:52 am)
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Replying to: burdawg (Jun 29, 2005 1:01 pm) |
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Replying to: gmfan (Jun 29, 2005 5:05 am) But back to my boss' 02 Trail Blazer...Her brakes have gotten used up about 5 or 6 times in the 46k miles she has put on the truck. She tells me she has never had a problem with disk warpage or pad wear on any of the other cars or trucks she's owned, so I tend to believe there might be a problem with the truck, rather than her driving style. She also told me that she is averaging less then 15 mpg, while my wife, with an AWD Bravada, is averaging almost 19 mpg, with driving that includes plenty of mountain climbing. The AWD system alone should create more drag and result in lower mileage, I would think. Do you think she could have a hydraulic problem that is causing her pads to drag and overheat the rotors? That could also explain the poor mileage, don't you think?
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Replying to: gmfan (Jun 29, 2005 6:59 am) To answer your question- (and please keep in mind most people have varying opinions) I just never liked the brake pedal feel or pedal travel. I've previously owned a Pathfinder and two 4Runners that, in my opinion, had better brake feel. I currently also have a 2005 4Runner and I like the brakes. Have I done any technical data research comparing SUV braking ? Nope. I just made my statement based on my foot and seat-of-pants feeling of driving the vehicle over the past 3 yrs. Of course, your question '"what other SUV's have better brakes?" could be taken in different ways. Did you mean 'better' as in just comparing overall dry stopping distance, or do you mean "better" as in comparing the braking system components of available SUV's such as rotor size/design, pad composite, applied brake system pressure, single/dual pistion calipers, ABS design used, and wet stopping distance ? I guess all of the above would have to be considered to decide what SUV out there has the "better" brakes! Of course, there are also people who would perhaps feel that their vehicle has 'better' brakes because their semi-metallic pads lasted them for 60k or they never had a warped rotor or evil caliper that froze up! Haha. Our Envoy has been the classic love/hate relationship; love the looks/design, the ride and comfort and gadgets. Hate the things that have broken, still don't work correctly, software gremlins that come and go with a mind of their own, and parts that prematurely wore out. Would I buy another one? Yeah probably would dang it.
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The trailer is 3300# dry and about 3700# wet (w/ propane & water). Add some food, luggage and 5 bicycles and I'd guess we're way less than 4400#. The five of us people weigh around 700# so the weight added to the truck (people and trailer) is way less than 5100 pounds. My TB has the 3.73 ratio so I think the rating is up to 5600 or so. There was no wind, but the ambient temp was in the mid 80's, and the road was fairly level (in NW Ohio). On a hunch (since this happened before), as we were getting ready the day before, I jacked the trailer and all four wheels spun very freely. Too bad that the tranny acts up like this, since GM originally touted the EXT version as a towing vehicle. It's very stable and comfy pulling my trailer, but this non-shifting drove me crazy. I know it has one built in, but maybe I need to add an aftermarket tranny cooler? Thanks for the comments, Deano
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