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You are in the Buick Rainier
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Chevrolet TrailBlazer, GMC Envoy, Buick Rainier, GMC Envoy XL, Isuzu Ascender, Oldsmobile Bravada, SUV
Apr 21, 2005 (11:52 am)
I agree with most if not all of what you said. The only thing incorrect is my jumping off of G.M.'s ship after 1 failure. My most recent G.M. product prior to my 2002 TB LTZ was a 2001 Trailblazer. Bought it brand new from a dealer, no G.M. plans, no employee or supplier discount etc. Just plain old financing. It was my 2nd SUV type of car the first being a 98 Jeep Cherokee. Gave a good Jeep to my son and bought the 01 TB. I had to have the TB towed in 3 times in 3 months. I must have really forgotten maintenance and developed bad driving habits for that to happen. Things like wires becoming lodged under 2 pieces of metal under the hood and shorting out. Or like not being able to shift out of park because a wire shorted controlling the sellonoid that releases the park mechanism. I forget the third towing incident, but 3 strikes was enough for me to trade in the 01. The 02 looked so much better and was soo much more powerful, I couldn't resist. I didn't jump ship, I bought the 02 LTZ. So I did give the general a chance. I had owned several G.M. products before, a 68 Olds Supreme, a 74 or so Cutlass Ciera a 78 Olds 98 Regency, and a Pontiac Grand Prix all were good cars. I have owned Ford cars and full size vans, still have 2 vans. I have 1 Chevy Astro Van which is just fine. I've had a Honda Accord a Nissan Maxima and a Mitsu. Diamante. All were good cars. The 01 and 02 TB's have for the time being soured my taste for G.M. products. I said I had hoped the Mitsu. Endeavor will be better than the TB was, it should be, the bar wasn't set very high.
What we are talking about here is ownership experience, good or bad. My experience with Chevy Trailblazers has been bad.
Apr 21, 2005 (12:18 pm)
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Apr 21, 2005 (1:08 pm)
Anyone ever install one or had one on their trailblazer??? Or know anyone who did?? bad or good??? I have a cold air intake and an exhaust on my 04 tb, just want a little low end kick because of having the ext cab.. Thanks
#16431 of 18329 Re: jet chip [sabotage]
Apr 21, 2005 (1:26 pm)
I don't and won't personally, due to the negatives I have read on some forums. I am instead waiting for a "tuner" to develop a change to the PCM that is more custom in nature. What little the Jet chip does on this engine is too off the shelf for my needs. I am talking the I-6 engine here. The V-8 has so much more possibilities. GM should make it an option in the GMT360's al la Rainier. With the long development time, I am thinking the 4.2L I-6 engine is not tuner friendly. Hope I am wrong.
#16432 of 18329 03 gmc envox xl slt - bad motor need help
Apr 22, 2005 (7:14 pm)
I have recently purchased a used 03 envoy xl st and noticed a ticking noise. I checked the oil and it was low by 2 quarts. I brought it in and they said the noise was a shroud and that they moved it.
I have been putting about 2 quarts of oil in per week. It is not dripping. I brought it in again and they said I have poor compression in all 6 cylinders.
The dealer said that GM agreed to pay half the cost of replacing the motor, (V6 4200), and the total cost is $7800, my half is $3900.
Does this seem like a lot of money?
Has anyone else had a similar problem. I did not buy a extended warranty, and the dealer keeps reminding me of this.
Also, does anyone know of a recall or have info that would help me persuade the dealer to help me out more.
#16433 of 18329 Re: 03 gmc envox xl slt - bad motor need help [bigalniner]
Apr 23, 2005 (3:18 am)
$3900 sounds like you are paying for the whole thing....
#16434 of 18329 Turn signal Mirror question again
Apr 23, 2005 (4:41 am)
Sorry gang, but where can I find just the turnsignal part, is there such thing??? is it just a attachment you can buy?? or do you have to buy the whole thing???
#16435 of 18329 Re: 03 gmc envox xl slt - bad motor need help [bigalniner]
Apr 23, 2005 (5:47 am)
I agree with above post, sounds like you are paying all at $3900. Why no warranty, even if over 36K miles dealer usually gives some kind of short term warranty. I'd call GM customer service myself and open a case. They might help.
You sure it is an '03 and not one of the '02's that had the problems?
#16436 of 18329 Re: 03 gmc envox xl slt - bad motor need help [01_hoe]
Apr 23, 2005 (6:56 am)
The envoy had 63k on it when i bought it. it came with a 30 day / 1000 mile warranty, and i declined to purchase an extended warranty, wish i would have though. I did call customer service, they did a 20 minute investigation, literally, they called the dealership while i was on hold, and told me they could not help me.
I have tried to find the number to the local zone office to get a hold of the area zone rep, but they wont give it to me for "security purposes", and the manager of the dealership will not return any calls either.
I asked the service manager why the engine replacement cost so much, he told me his cost from GM for the 4200 is $5200, and the rest is labor. He said the front drive shaft runs through the motor, and they have to drop the drive shaft to remove the motor, so there is a lot of labor involved. I don't know enough to know if he's full of it, but it does seem expensive.
Thanks for your reply.
#16437 of 18329 Re: 03 gmc envox xl slt - bad motor need help [bigalniner]
Apr 23, 2005 (9:52 am)
Unless you live in a very high cost of living area, I think these prices are out of line. Hopefully you got the Envoy at a great price due to the high mileage on it. I looked on gmpartsdirect for a cost from them for an engine, but it was not listed. Are you able to drive the vehicle? How about trading it for something else? Might consider a used engine, but may get another problem. Do you have any other Envoy dealers in the area you could get a second quote from? Also a Chevrolet dealer could also do repairs sometimes cheaper, but they aren't going to do a 50/50 on this. I would push GMC customer service more. You said they could not help, are they also saying they will not help? Ask to talk to a supervisor at GMC customer service. Also, ask to see the General Manager personally, don't rely on the phone they will dodge you all day long. Does your state have a lemon law on used vehicles? Tell the dealership you will contact Better Business Bureau if not satisfied.
The front axle goes thru the oil pan, but should not require that much more labor.
You are 100% sure this is a 2003? What was the build date? It will be on the drivers door on a sticker, unless someone removed it.