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Chevrolet TrailBlazer, GMC Envoy, Buick Rainier, GMC Envoy XL, Isuzu Ascender, Oldsmobile Bravada, SUV
#16379 of 18329 Trailblazer a real off road vehicle? dmathews3
Apr 16, 2005 (7:00 am)
Where do you think a TB can go with about 5 inches of front end to pavement clearance? As far as not being in the same class as the TB, you are correct and I am happy to upgrade. This is my 2nd Mitsu. product, the first being a 99 Diamante. Four years of leasing the Diamante caused me 1 trip to the dealer, to replace a bad horn, 1 of 2 went out. I suppose the Chevy Vega was a blessing to the American public as was the G.M. V8-6-4 engine. Let's see, the Corvair was a real safe car to ride in, especially the back seat. The 10 yr. 100k mile warranty is insurance that repair costs will be bourn by the responsible party, not the innocent dupe who buys the poorly engineered product. I suppose you would rather buy a car with no warranty, implying that the car must be perfect. If I make a good product, I would gladly provide a long warranty, look at the G.M. Northstar product.
It takes a very narrow vision to not see that other countries may also have good and great engineers. Look around you, do Lexus, Nissan and Toyota come from Michigan?
I am not saying the Endeavor will be the best car ever. I am saying the 2001 and 2002 Trailblazers I owned were the worst.
#16380 of 18329 Re: Trailblazer a real off road vehicle? dmathews3 [ficuss]
Apr 16, 2005 (7:51 am)
Do really any SUV's ever touch the off road??? Except for a occasional camping trip with the FAM....If I wanted to go off roading I would buy a old pick up and put a lift kit and chunky tires to go off road'n..Just my 2 cents
#16382 of 18329 Re: heated mirror question [sabotage]
Apr 16, 2005 (9:12 am)
Yes, simple plug and play. You can also just buy the orange turn signal lens and bulbs and convert what you have.
#16383 of 18329 Re: Trailblazer a real off road vehicle? dmathews3 [ficuss]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Apr 16, 2005 (10:24 am)
It takes a very narrow vision to not see that other countries may also have good and great engineers.
Yep, some look at the Endeavor and wonder Mitsubishi: Can This Brand Be Saved?. (Inside Line)
"Indeed, turnarounds happen. Look at Chrysler, Nissan and Volkswagen, the Mitsubishi folks point out."
I'd say it's about GM's time, in spite of whispering about Bob Lutz. (Inside Line)
With all the rumors of GM going Chapter 11 and all sorts of doom and gloom articles, it's probably just a great time to load up on some GM stock, especially if you like the TBs and think GM is undervalued right now. (this ain't financial advice so don't bet your retirement on some internet musings ).
#16384 of 18329 Re: Driven Away,,,, not insane [ficuss]
Apr 16, 2005 (10:53 am)
..This is a crossover SUV, meaning it is built off a car chassis rather than a truck chassis. The ride is more car like than truck like, which makes it much superior to the TB..
That's like saying the color red is superior to the color blue. I drive a truck because I like the ruggedness of a truck. If I wanted a car, I'd buy a car. My only complaint about the SUVs of today is that too many soccer moms are driving them which leads to manufacturers to soften the ride and lower them so they can't go offroad.
#16385 of 18329 Re: Driven Away,,,, not insane [ross1962]
Apr 16, 2005 (11:04 am)
My only complaint about the SUVs of today is that too many soccer moms are driving them which leads to manufacturers to soften the ride and lower them so they can't go offroad.
I wouldn't blame the mythical soccer mom for my own preferences in a vehicle. Manufacturers tend to provide products their customers will buy and the vast majority (men and women both!) who buy SUVs desire the large form factor with passenger vehicle comfort and amenities.
#16386 of 18329 Paint peeling front bumper and hood?
Apr 16, 2005 (12:54 pm)
Has anyone had a problem with paint chipping/peeling on the front bumper or with excessive chips on the hood. Mine are both chipped way more than I would figure in 2 years of driving. I had the front bumper repainted when someone backed into it and scratched it up, I wonder if the body shop did anything wrong (this was at least a year ago). It really makes the truck look bad.
Guess I'll drop by the body shop and see what they can do for me.
#16387 of 18329 That's like saying the color red is superior to the color blue
Apr 16, 2005 (3:14 pm)
Ross1962, you're correct, what I meant is that I prefer the car like ride over the truck like ride. I'm sure you realize cars are a personal thing, like wine. I may like one and you may not. It doesn't mean it is good or bad. Now for the TB to be a truck, I would expect it to last like a truck, you know "Built like a Truck" isn't that Chevy's slogan?. Well, a truck suspension probably wouldn't be loose enough at 25k miles to need a new sway bar and/or links. The front bumper cover on a Truck probably would be fastened well enough to not come loose. I've never heard of another truck whose windshield wiper motor had hydrophobia, that's the fear of water. They seemed to leak and short out, in the rain no less. I suppose if I took the advise of some here and used a rain repellent on the windshield I wouldn't have to worry about it, but I didn't. As for being an off road vehicle, I didn't notice the Rubicon trail rating being applied to the TB. I doubt the TB would be allowed on the trail. Time will tell, but for the time being, I think the Mitsu. Endeavor is a great alternative for anyone else disenchanted with G.M.'s triplets