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#15753 of 18329 Re: What happened to the LTZ? #15735
Jan 02, 2005 (10:12 am)
Being a car and SUV fanatic, I try to keep up with most of the vehicles that I have ever owned if they are still in production. Mainly just to see what types of changes the different manufacturers have implemented throughout the life of the vehicles. Recently, I pulled into a rather large Chevy dealership to check out the new TB. Although automobile appearances are highly subjective regarding whether or not they look good, I will say that I personally prefer the 2002 and 2003 LTZ TBs with running boards over any of the other TB trim packages. I think that the side mouldings containing the 'TrailBlazer' wording and Chevy bowtie logo looked nice on the 2002 and 2003 model TBs that had them. Also, I liked the dark grey/black 'CHEVROLET' wording being positioned at the lower right corner of the liftgate better than the gold Chevy bowtie logo being positioned at the top-center of the plastic license plate housing. I still can't decide whether or not I really like the interior changes yet. Maybe they would grow on me if I had one of the new TBs. Not sure if GM should have altered the interior on the TB--since the changes aren't dramatic ones. The chrome door handles, chrome air vent trim pieces, new gear shift knob and CHEVROLET emblems being added to the door sills were about the only interior changes I noticed. Not sure if you can still get an overhead console with sunglasses case, etc. Also not sure what year that GM did away with the 'Travel Note' voice message recorder.
Happy New Year to all!
#15754 of 18329 Re: Envoy 30,000 Mile Service [horns]
Jan 02, 2005 (11:22 am)
Scrach the PCV valve off the list, there isn't one (and there is no cabin air filter) . Probably wasting your money on the "fuel injectors and throttle body" service if you are using decent gas and no idling problems; this is not mentioned in the owner's manual either. I doubt they will actually disassemble the battery housing to clean and inspect it, might check the connections to make sure they're clean and tight. There is nothing to lube with the drive shaft U-joints since they are sealed. I would certainly expect them to lubricate the brake caliper slide pins while they have it apart inspecting the brakes since that's a known problem.
Sounds a little pricy to me since all they do is a lot of checking, and a little maintenance other than an oil change, rotate and balance the tires, new oil air and fuel filters, and top off a few fluids if needed. But for peace of mind it might be worth it go get it on record, just in case. Never know with these things.
#15755 of 18329 Re: What happened to the LTZ? #15735 [ron_m]
Jan 02, 2005 (11:36 am)
Did you notice the new dome and map light treatment? More decontenting. Got rid of the 4 individual lights and put in two- one in the front and the other in the back-center, and the back one is very flimsily mounted. Also got rid of the driver's side grab handle, not that it was useable where it was, anyway. Do like the new option of the black interior as a choice away from the drab gray or tan, probably looks good with the new chrome accents, but haven't seen one in black yet. Doubt the black interior will get me out of my 2002.
#15756 of 18329 Re: What happened to the LTZ? #15735 [tblazed]
Jan 02, 2005 (1:11 pm)
I can't say that I noticed the details of the new dome and map lights.
Like yourself, I like black interior. Even though it is hotter in the summer, I like the way it looks when it's cleaned up and conditioned really well. Doesn't show dirt and grime as bad either, and seems to look better longer from my experience.
Too bad about the continued decontenting of the TB by GM. The debut year model TB was extremely well equipped.
#15757 of 18329 Re: Edmunds Maintenance Guide [horns]
by steve_ HOST
Jan 02, 2005 (2:10 pm)
My zipcode (Boise) is a pretty cheap place to live; I was in Anchorage before so most any place seems cheaper now!
For errors in the Maintenance Guide, like the in-cabin filter, please Contact us.
#15758 of 18329 Envoy 30,000 Mile Service
Jan 02, 2005 (4:51 pm)
I have to agree with tblazed. The only thing they are really doing for 380 bucks is changing the oil and filter, changing the air filter and fuel filter, and rotating the tires. The rest are just checks ... and you have no assurance that they are even doing them. You could do all of that yourself for a fraction of the cost. However, what really needs to be done (in my humble opinion) is to change the coolant, flush the brakes, and change the transmission and power steering fluid. GM may not call for it because they like to advertise long service life, but your vehicle will be infinitely the happier for it ... and last a hell of a lot longer.
#15759 of 18329 Performance Modules and Aftermarket Exhausts
Jan 02, 2005 (10:14 pm)
Has anyone had any experience with JBA stainless steel catback exhaust system for the Envoy/Trailblazer? Or how about the Jet Performance Modules? Any good? Appreciate any feedback.
#15760 of 18329 Problems installing a add-on CD Changer
Jan 03, 2005 (6:04 am)
I recently attempted to install an add-on CD changer in my 2002 Envoy. After following Crutchfield's instructions on how to take apart the dash and center console, I installed the antenna relay for the changer at the back of the radio. I did not get a chance to install any power lines for the changer. All I did was unplug the radio a few times in trying to install the antenna wire.
Anyway, I went ahead and put everything back together and the car won't start. I checked the fuses and all are good. All the accessories are fully powered except when I turn the key to crank, everything turns off when the key hits the run position. The only other thing of note is that there is no gear indicator. It shows P, R, N, D, etc. but no line underneath shows which gear I'm in.
After calling GM, they said that they think it may be related to the shift lock sensor. I took apart the center console to inspect and there doesn't appear to be any loose wires or problems due to my loosening the center console.
#15761 of 18329 Foreign Service of GMC or Chevy
Jan 03, 2005 (6:06 am)
I currently live in the UK and am curious if anyone knows of any place that will service GMCs or Chevys. The local GM division here is Vauxhall and the rumor is that they don't usually touch US sold cars.
Jan 03, 2005 (7:42 am)
I'm not a big fan of the refreshened 2005 Trailblazers either. I dislike the removal of the Trailblazer on the side molding, the white gauges (although I heard that they reverted back to the original ones), the shifter with the gray stripe down the middle, the new font in which Trailblazer is written on the back, or the removal of the lights over each door. I agree that the 2002 model year was the most well equipped but if I had to pick any Trailblazer, I would have to get a 2003 LT since it has the body colored side moldings.