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Chevrolet TrailBlazer, GMC Envoy, Buick Rainier, GMC Envoy XL, Isuzu Ascender, Oldsmobile Bravada, SUV
#15319 of 18329 Re: Blows Smoke when Starting Cold by tony17112acst [tony17112acst]
Sep 24, 2004 (6:08 am)
Go to https://www.mygmlink.com/main/US/en/gm/home and register your vehicle. You will have to transfer the remainder of the warranty. GM added the 2 year, 24000 GMPP Major Guard to all 2002 and up Oldsmobiles. Call their customer service and they will be glad to help through the process. I bought a 2002 Bravada with 50,000 miles and have had several small fixes under that warranty. Car runs great and have had no problems. Also, your engine is warranted for 100,000 miles if it has the dreaded Sleeve slipping condition. Good luck!
#15320 of 18329 Bravada Blows Smoke Starting Cold
Sep 24, 2004 (8:58 am)
You could forego the 5/60 warranty and get a discount on the price. So I would imagine a leasing company would probably go with that option.
#15322 of 18329 Re: Blows Smoke when Starting Cold by tony17112acst [tony17112acst]
Sep 24, 2004 (10:59 am)
My car was a lease car, so don't give up.
#15323 of 18329 re: 3.42 gears [wlbrown9]
Sep 24, 2004 (4:35 pm)
I have an '02 Envoy XL SLT with the 3.42 gears. Even without heavy load it will downshift to maintain the cruise setting. I believe the manual indicates the truck can be driven in 3rd gear to minimize this effect. Check it out.
#15324 of 18329 Re: 2002 Bravada LOUD and Blows Smoke when Starting Cold [tony17112acst]
Sep 24, 2004 (7:48 pm)
White smoke at atart up sounds like it could be a blown head gasket. Does it smell like anti freeze? In any event, this would certainly affect emissions, and thus sounds to me like an emissions problem ... and the entire emissions system is warranted for -- I forget how long, but it is at least 50,000 miles
#15325 of 18329 RE: Blows Smoke when Starting Cold [tony17112acst]
Sep 25, 2004 (8:52 am)
It's not a water-vapor type of white smoke, it's heavy and hangs around, unlike steam would.
From what was described in the first post, sounds like oil smoke to me. Coolant leaking into a cylinder would dissipate like steam.
When I first bought my 1988 S-10 with 4.3 V6 (that I still own now with 98,900 miles) it would blow a cloud of bluish-white smoke occasionally upon the morning start-up. Dealer installed a valve stem seal kit and it never did it again.
BTW the emissions warranty is very limited, and depends what State you are in, too. California has the most extensive emissions coverage. Details in the warranty booklet with your owner's manual. I was surprised some items that are not covered, which would certainly effect emissions.
#15326 of 18329 RE: Blows Smoke when Starting Cold [tblazed]
Sep 25, 2004 (11:12 am)
Thanks for all your input folks.
I have 2 things to report:
#1 - I called GM and they said that I will get the 60,000 mile warranty just by filling out a form and sending them a $50 transfer fee. I hope that's true; I fear that they just told me this to get me off the phone. Then when the form gets to GM in the mail, they'll send me a letter that says "this particular vehicle had the 36,000 mile warranty. As I mentioned above, my Carfax report lists the warranty as EXPIRED and a 36,000 mile warranty.
#2 - We've started the Bravada 3 times cold since the billowing while smoke. Guess what, no white smoke the last 3 times. It still sounds like a diesel for the first 5-10 minutes however.
We will be watching for more white smoke for the next 10 starts. It was very chilly when I got the original white smoke, so maybe it'll show when it goes below 45 degrees like the first time.
I am in PA, btw. I hope emissions is covered b/c the emission inspection just started this year.
Also, it does not smell like antifeeze, nor does it look like it (since it would dissipate repidly if it were steasm-type smoke).
Oldsdriver: is that a bumper-tobumper warranty you got for all those miles?
#15327 of 18329 RE: Blows Smoke when Starting Cold [tony17112acst]
Sep 25, 2004 (1:37 pm)
Yes, it is bumper to bumper and I,m sure they will honor their commitment. You can read what Major Guard covers on their web site. It is a great warranty. When you take your car to a GM dealer, they may call in to make sure you are covered and when they find out it is, they want to do the work. I don't Carfax knows anything about extended warranties.
I don't remember which, but I did not have to transfer the warranty by mail, I either did it on- line or over the phone. Also, I talked to the GM dealership where I was going to have the work done first. I think I paid my transfer fee to them and they called in and helped somehow. Usually the person you talk to is their finance guy/gal. I made so many calls and talked to so many people that I have lost track of the final way it was accomplished. Extending this warranty to more that 60,000 miles is interesting too. You must do it before the car has 57,000 miles and/or 3 months before expiration. It will still be a GMPP but not bumper to bumper but close. The finance person may have to be enlightened on this too.
You should get clarification on the 100,000 mile engine warranty also, just in case your problem is that you need a new engine.
I hope you like your bravada as much as I like mine. It is pleasure to drive.
#15328 of 18329 Engine noise
Sep 25, 2004 (4:56 pm)
My 02 LTZ has 31,000 miles. In the last 5-7,000 miles, I have noticed a ticking noise under acceleration, at 2,000 RMP or higher. When I back off and maintain a steady speed, there is no excessive noise. It almost sounds like spark knock, although it is not. The dealer said this was normal for a TB, but since it only recently started, I don't believe it is normal. Has anyone had a similar noise? Thanks for a reply.