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Chevrolet TrailBlazer, GMC Envoy, Buick Rainier, GMC Envoy XL, Isuzu Ascender, Oldsmobile Bravada, SUV
Jun 02, 2001 (12:03 pm)
You might want to keep an eye on your oil. I told my husband your theory and he said that he checked to fluid levels when we got it. It definately used a quart of oil. I haven't taken it in for it's first oil change but I plan to do it this week. I have a few other things I need corrected also...console lid is crooked, seat belt locks up and won't release, steering wheel is crooked since they fixed the recall problem, etc. Just little stuff but I really worry about the oil. I only know one other person with a 2002 Bravada and they were a quart low after 2000 miles. Worth keeping an eye one.
Anyone else get a check today form Oldsmobile? Pleasant surprise!
#1349 of 18329 test drive and size?'s
Jun 02, 2001 (3:26 pm)
Just found this site and haven't had time to read all 1200 messages so maybe my ?'s have been answered. Took a TB LS for a short test drive today and thought the ride was a little soft from side to side compared to my 96 Explorer. Anybody else notice this? Also did a comparison of the TB and Explorer on autosite.com. They showed the TB being an inch longer at 39.7". I measured it today and got 34" between the top of the back seat and the hatch. Not long enough for my dog kennel. Also the manual states if you are going to be towing a trailer over 1000 lbs. you need trailer brakes. I really don't want to retrofit my '68 trailer. Also, Ford says there would be no problem braking with the Explorer and a 1500 lb trailer. Any comments? Also any MPG figures?
#1350 of 18329 Make that the cargo length is 39.7
Jun 02, 2001 (3:29 pm)
#1351 of 18329 3.9/4.9/5.9% Financing
Jun 02, 2001 (3:59 pm)
Was wondering if anyone was able to use this special financing that Edmunds.com lists as being available for new 2002 TrailBlazers. While I am listed as being in an area that is eligible for this financing no dealer has seen it or will give it to me without first calling to GMAC to verify. Since no dealer in my area has exactly what I want right now and I am not ready to buy from their stock, they have not checked it out with GMAC. So I was just wondering if it really exists. Maybe the hosts could have Edmunds double check this?! Thanks in advance!
#1352 of 18329 pbshann Re: GMAC special financing
Jun 02, 2001 (4:17 pm)
I was at Bob Brown Chevrolet in Des Moines Iowa Thursday. They have a Trailblazer in the showroom, and there was a big sign on the windshield about the special interest rate incentives that GMAC is currently offering...the same ones that Edmunds is showing. So yes, they do really exist.
#1353 of 18329 satisfied envoy owner
Jun 02, 2001 (10:33 pm)
Ordered: Feb 10
Delivered: May 14
Drove Home: May 19
SLT 4WD- Pewter, running boards, Sunroof, the only option not taken was the 4.10 rear-end. I spend between 10-12 hours per week driving and in the time that I have had my Envoy, I wish I could drive even more. So far I have not had any of the problems that people talk about. People claim that the brakes feel mushy, if you have never driven a car with 4 wheel disc brakes then I could see your point. As for the steering, I have driven a Yukon and my last car was a 99 Grand Prix so the steering feels like a combination of the two. I also do not believe in the old idea that you should not buy a vehicle the first year it was built.... If everyone did that, every vehicle on the road today would only be a concept vehicle.
Jun 03, 2001 (4:32 am)
jjc77: Excellent point on the first year of a new vehicle!
Your comment on the brakes is interesting. This is my first 4-wheel disc vehicle, and I also thought the brakes felt "mushy" at first. It may be my imagination, but they seemed to get a tighter feel over time as if they required a certain amount of break-in time. Maybe I just got used to them, but they certainly don't feel as mushy now as when I first got the truck.
#1355 of 18329 Thanks Martha, I mean Jim F
Jun 03, 2001 (8:24 am)
Thanks very much for the sunroof noise info. It is a leak and I found exactly where it is. Posts like that, helpful and informative, make this board great.
Also, what is a TSB and how can I find the info on it for the Envoy sunroof.
Jun 03, 2001 (8:40 am)
I love my Envoy! I, and probably everyone else who has bought one of the triplets, expected some first year annoyances. I weighed the pluses and minuses of waiting until 2003 or buying now and decided to buy now. Post 1280 makes a great point about first year vehicles. Any model year, or any product you buy for that matter, can have problems. Hell, I sell books for a living. Sometimes they come thru with pages missing. As long as the dealer does their best and fixes the problems I will be happy.
I must admit that the oil usage bothers me, but at 600 mile I'm ok and now know to check often. Hopefully the cause is not too serious.
To focus on the positive, these are great looking SUV's, I have already been told so by complete strangers. The inline 6 is powerful and quiet. They are just the right size, not too big, not too small. My list could go on an on. I have and will continue to recommend these SUV's to others.
#1357 of 18329 Improvements for 2003?
Jun 03, 2001 (8:50 am)
I plan on holding on to my Envoy for at least 10 years, but here is a list of some improvements I think they could make for the next model year to help future buyers. Anyone have more to add?
-a larger gas tank. Explorer has a 22 gallon, I wish my Envoy did, that's almost another 100 miles between fill ups.The initial RX300 had a small tank too, but Lexus eventually fit a bigger one in.
-better cd holder. This is really minor, but annoys me. If they just changed the size of the console slightly, cd's would fit in so you could read the labels instead of looking at plastic edges.
-ugly geometric interior trim on Envoy SLE. I wish it was just plain black. I plan on replacing it as soon as something is available.
-2 last biggies, 5 speed automatic transmission and independent rear suspension.