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#11433 of 18329 Inst cluster recall
May 27, 2003 (11:59 am)
You should be receiving an invitation to visit the dealer (and waste an hour or two of your time for a "fix" for a problem that should not exist in the first place) any ol' day now.
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) has released the following information.
Models: Chevrolet TrailBlazer/TrailBlazer EXT Year: 2002
GMC Envoy/Envoy XL Year: 2002
Oldsmobile Bravada Year: 2002
Number Potentially Involved: 314,300
Dates of Manufacture: October 2000 – March 2003
Noncompliance: Certain sport utility vehicles fail to comply with the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards No. 101, “Control Location, Identification, and Illumination” and No. 208, “Occupant Crash Protection.” These vehicles have an intermittent condition during vehicle start-up in which the instrument panel cluster may not properly power up, resulting in most of the displays, telltale lights, and functions being inoperative.
Remedy: Dealers will reprogram the instrument panel cluster. The manufacturer has reported that owner notification is expected to begin during April 2003. Owners may contact Chevrolet at 1-800-222-1020, GMC at 1-800-462-8782, or Oldsmobile at 1-800-442-6537.
[NHTSA Recall No. 03V096/GM Recall No. 03013].
May 27, 2003 (1:41 pm)
This past weekend the Envoy would do nothing when the key was turned. Got a simple click, then nothing. Thought it might be the battery but after 15 minutes, I tried again and voila it starts. Happenned 2 times in last 3 days. I brought it to the dealer, they see no codes and they tested everything OK. When dead, I called onstar and they too saw no codes. The dealer tells me to take it home and have it towed in when it happens again (without retrying). Has anyone seen this before? Any suggestions I should follow up with the dealer?
#11436 of 18329 Re: dashboard display not working
May 27, 2003 (3:23 pm)
Here's a TSB for the problem.
The Dealership will check to see if the IPC needs reprograming.
If so its a simple fix.
TSB# 02-08-49-004A - (11/01/2002)
Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC) Gauges Read Zero at Times, Gauges Inoperative at Times (Reprogram IPC) #02-08-49-004A - (11/01/2002)
2002 Chevrolet TrailBlazer, TrailBlazer EXT
2002 GMC Envoy, Envoy XL
2002 Oldsmobile Bravada
Some customers may comment that at times all the IPC gauges are inoperative or read zero at times.
The IPC cluster module receives information to position the gauges when the key is turned from OFF to ON/START. Random electrical interference with this data information on the serial data line may interrupt the receipt of the information by the IPC. When the IPC data information signal is compromised, the IPC will set the gauges to zero for that complete ignition cycle. The gauges may work properly on the next ignition cycle, if the ignition was off for approximately five minutes prior to the next ignition cycle.
#11437 of 18329 Car Seat Question
May 27, 2003 (4:27 pm)
Hello - we looked at the Envoy XL this weekend and still are unsure. We need to hold three car seats in the middle row more often than not.
We tested it but there is nothing like real world experiences. If anyone is using three car seats across the middle row. Please share your opinion so that we can make an educated decision.
Thanx in advance.
#11438 of 18329 GM Calibration site
May 27, 2003 (9:05 pm)
What does this site tell me when I enter my VIN? Does it tell me what is availble? or what has been done?
May 28, 2003 (4:34 am)
I've got a 4 year old and an 8 month old, so I run with a forward facing car seat and an infant carrier with base 100% of the time. Quite frequently, however, we need to take along another child with another car seat, so we start the jockeying process. It can be done. However, I'm fairly certain that I wouldn't want cram the little buggers in there like that on a day in, day out basis. It's a pretty tight fit, but not a whole light tighter than in my brother's Tahoe.
May 28, 2003 (6:31 am)
Does anyone know if you can have heated seats installed in the SLE version of the Envoy? I have the cloth seats. Are there upholsterers that will do this?
Also - has anyone had any troubles with their Homelink? I had to re program it and even though I erased the old code and then put in the new one it still sends out the old code because I can open my old garage door.
#11441 of 18329 My New Baby Has Arrived....
May 28, 2003 (9:20 am)
I couldn't wait until this upcoming weekend, so I drove the 170 miles to pick up my new baby yesterday! 2003 Envoy SLT XL V-8 in Pewter!
I must say, it was a gem to drive home. Although, I must admit.. this is the FIRST time that I ever purchased a vehicle and brought it home in the rain. I was a little dissapointed, but that gave me more reason to crank up the Bose, sit back and relax! The return trip was very nice indeed. I reset the DIC and averaged 19.5 mpg all the way home 65-70 mph, I was pretty impressed.
Also, for those who are interested, I did e-mail Xenondepot.com for information concerning the Philips HID conversion for the Envoy. I will post my e-mail to Xenondepot.com and the response received:
""I was referred to your website by surfing the Philips HID forum. It appears that you carry the Philips line of Xenon HID conversion kits correct?
My question to you is as follows: I have a 2003 GMC Envoy XL that I want to convert over to the Xenon HID system. I do know that this vehicle (as well as the Trail Blazer and Bravada) all use the daytime running lights feature that runs the low beam during the day. Unlike other DRL systems (like my father's 2002 Yukon Denali), the Envoy does not utilize a separate light for the DRL system, just the regular low beams.
I am a little worried because I tested my vehicle both day and night and it appears that the low beams are ALWAYS on and running at regular voltage. Therefore, IF I were to install the Xenon HID kit, would the HID lights stay on all the time since this vehicle is equipped with the DRL feature? I would hate to run the Xenon's during the day for no apparent reason, I would much rather have them switch on at night. I do know that the older body style GMC Envoy's used to do this. They had a separate light for the DRL's and at night the HID's would switch on.
Also, I know that when you unlock the doors at night, this activates the perimeter lighting feature which flashes the low beams twice and then illuminates them for approximately 40 seconds (or until you get into the vehicle and turn the key). Any information that you could provide concerning this would be greatly appreciated? """
""You are 100% correct about your assumption that the DRL will be an issue because they will be given that they operate on a fluctuating current (as opposed to a stable 12V). We have however found a solution to this issue via the use of a capacitor. Doing so however would cause your HID bulbs to be on all the time. The only way to have the HID lights only on at night would be to disable your DRL.""
Also, he mentioned that he knows a guy that has this kit on his Envoy. He suggested that I contact this guy to gather his thoughts about the system and how well it's working for his vehicle. Stay tuned, hopefully I can bring more information concerning this for those who are interested.
#11442 of 18329 3 across car seats
May 28, 2003 (9:25 am)
I've had the same question on the car seats. (looking to replace a minivan with an Envoy)
My Subaru Outback can do it just barely. the seat measures 51 inches across in the Outback. The triplets measure like 54 or something. So depending on car seat width (make/model) it should work.
I'm guessing an XL model will work best since kids also come with lots of toys.
PS: a Chrysler/Dodge mini van can NOT do 3 across in car seats. The biggest bench seat only measures 48 inchs.