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#11002 of 18329 Inst cluster and "Theft" protection recalls
by tblazed
Apr 30, 2003 (10:41 am)
Oh goodie - just when things were getting slow...
#1
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) has released the following information.
Models: Chevrolet TrailBlazer/TrailBlazer EXT Year: 2002
GMC Envoy/Envoy XL Year: 2002
Oldsmobile Bravada Year: 2002
Number Potentially Involved: 314,300
Dates of Manufacture: October 2000 – March 2003
Noncompliance: Certain sport utility vehicles fail to comply with the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards No. 101, “Control Location, Identification, and Illumination” and No. 208, “Occupant Crash Protection.” These vehicles have an intermittent condition during vehicle start-up in which the instrument panel cluster may not properly power up, resulting in most of the displays, telltale lights, and functions being inoperative.
Remedy: Dealers will reprogram the instrument panel cluster. The manufacturer has reported that owner notification is expected to begin during April 2003. Owners may contact Chevrolet at 1-800-222-1020, GMC at 1-800-462-8782, or Oldsmobile at 1-800-442-6537.
[NHTSA Recall No. 03V096/GM Recall No. 03013].
#2
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) has released the following information.
Models: Chevrolet TrailBlazer/TrailBlazer EXT Year: 2002-2003
GMC Envoy/Envoy XL Year: 2002-2003
Oldsmobile Bravada Year: 2002-2003
Hummer H2 Year: 2003
Number Potentially Involved: 511,167
Dates of Manufacture: October 2000 – September 2002
Noncompliance: Certain sport utility vehicles fail to comply with the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 114, “Theft Protection.” These vehicles are equipped with a mechanical override that could allow the ignition key to be removed with the shift lever in a position other than PARK. In addition, these vehicles have an override that can allow the transmission to be shifted out of PARK with the ignition in the OFF position. These overrides are not permitted unless the vehicle has a locking steering column.
Remedy: Dealers will eliminate these conditions by disabling the overrides. The manufacturer has reported that owner notification is expected to begin during April 2003. Owners may contact Chevrolet at 1-800-222-1020, GMC at 1-800-462-8782, Oldsmobile at 1-800-442-6537, or Hummer at 1-866-486-6376.
[NHTSA Recall No. 03V075/GM Recall No. 03012].
Apr 30, 2003 (11:03 am)
"...In addition, these vehicles have an override that can allow the transmission to be shifted out of PARK with the ignition in the OFF position. These overrides are not permitted unless the vehicle has a locking steering column."
This little gem saved me when my TB wouldn't start while it was sitting in the garage. These vehicles also have a solenoid that prevents the ignition from being turned to ON when the battery is dead. Had my TB not had this override, the only option that the Tow Truck operator (whom the Chevy dealer sent to pick up my TB) would've had would have been to just *drag* my truck up onto his flatbed.
Nice solution.
Apr 30, 2003 (11:09 am)
Actually 80 years ago, the brakes on GM cars were a mechanical, external contracting brake run by a cable and then only on the rear wheels. They're rather hard to get adjusted just right. A little too tight and they will drag and lock up. A little too loose and you don't stop at all. Even if they are adjusted right you don't stop any time soon.
#11005 of 18329 scott54, tblazed and badgerpaul
by ficuss
Apr 30, 2003 (12:26 pm)
scott54: being in the software biz, you know the importance and use of beta testing. GM should have beta tested these cars before selling them to us.
tblazed: a vendor may have supplied the brake lines, but GM should have inspected them BEFORE installation.
badgerpaul: I put the 80 years number out there for emphasis, not as a factual date.
My point was not to dwell on the defects, but rather the lack of precise engineering necessary to build a dependable, quality product. Any good carpenter will tell you, measure twice--cut once.
Frank
#11006 of 18329 Window Vents- best type?
by cortt
Apr 30, 2003 (1:47 pm)
I just bought a TB LTZ and want to install window vents. I had them (AutoVent stick-ons) on my
1996 GMC Jimmy and they worked great all 7 years.
I have seen the same 3M stick-on types and also
ones by EGR that "snap" in. I installed the stick-on types myself with little difficulty and once on, don't intend to ever take them off, so portability is not an issue. Has anyone comments or experience to share on pros and cons of the different types epsecially as they fit on the new TB/Envoys? Thanks!
#11007 of 18329 Its official, I did it again.
by 2yearleaseonly
Apr 30, 2003 (2:22 pm)
Drove to Syracuse in my 2003 Envoy on the Thruway and got 27 MPG at 70 mph. Drove around the city, got 16 just like the sticker. Drove home again on the Thruway, and got 26 MPG. Pretty cool....
#11008 of 18329 re: It's official
by scottc454
Apr 30, 2003 (2:32 pm)
Yeah, but did you make the entire round trip on one tank of gas?
#11009 of 18329 The vibrating gas pedal saga, chapter 1292
by 2yearleaseonly
Apr 30, 2003 (2:36 pm)
The dealer through in the towel. Kept the 2003 Envoy for 10 days, yep 10 days, and could not resolve it and threw in the towel. Dealer said he would try to get compensation for me for my trouble. I opened a case file with GMC and asked for a GM smart care plus which gives you scheduled oil changes, tire rotations and brakes for 50,000 miles. The zone rep came around and drove the vehicle and agreed the pedal vibrates but is not annoying. He offered a smart care package without the frills for 24000 miles. I sent him a message saying that after buying 3 GM products in 5 years, suffering with a "P"esky "O"n "S"tar Blazer for 3 years, I felt I deserved more. So I offer this, either give me the smart care package for 50,000 miles like I asked, or nothing and I will do what my wife wanted me to do from the get go. Which was to buy a Honda or Toyota like her car. I explained I only have 18 months to go on this lease. He accepted my offer, which was nothing. As a last shot, I wrote a letter to Mr. G. Richard Wagoner, Jr. GM President and Chief Executive Officer. I explained, what happened, that the zone rep was useless, and unlike a bad meal in a restaurant, I am giving him an opportunity to save me as a customer. Most people, dont complain to the owner, they just pay for the meal and go somewhere else next time. I will let you know if they respond. If not, see you all over at the Honda board next year, unless I get a new job, then it will be the Accura board.
#11010 of 18329 Re: It's official by scottc454
by 2yearleaseonly
Apr 30, 2003 (2:42 pm)
He writes...
Yeah, but did you make the entire round trip on one tank of gas?
I write...
No, what I do is fill up right before the on ramp to the Thruway, then when I get off I buy gas at the first station I see and get the mileage that way. Very scientific actually.
#11011 of 18329 re: Window Vents- best type? by cortt
by giddens_john
Apr 30, 2003 (3:00 pm)
I strongly recommend against getting the kind that slip into the widow channel. I prefer the looks of the ones that go into the window channel, but I had some on my previous vehicle and they knocked the windows out of alignment several times. I got the dealer to take care of it every time but only because I got them through the dealer.