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You are in the Buick Rainier Forum.What is this discussion about? Chevrolet TrailBlazer, GMC Envoy, Buick Rainier, GMC Envoy XL, Isuzu Ascender, Oldsmobile Bravada, SUV
#10981 of 18329 GM RECALL by paulyjsob
Apr 28, 2003 (9:51 am)
April 25, 2003GM Has Recalled the 2003 Trailblazer, Envoy and Bravada
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) has released the following information.
Make : CHEVROLET Model : TRAILBLAZER Year : 2003
Make : GMC Model : ENVOY Year : 2003
Make : OLDSMOBILE Model : BRAVADA Year : 2003
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number : 03V151000
Component: SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC:FOUNDATION COMPONENTS:HOSES, LINES/PIPING, AND FITTINGS
Potential Number Of Units Affected : 44653
Summary:
CERTAIN SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES WERE BUILT WITH A LEFT-FRONT BRAKE PIPE WITH A CIRCUMFERENTIAL SCORE AT A RANDOM LOCATION ALONG THE LENGTH OF THE PIPE AS THE RESULT OF THE MANUFACTURING PROCESS. IF THE BRAKE PIPE AT THE SCORING LOCATION CORRODED TO THE POINT THAT THE BRAKE PIPE WALL BECAME VERY THIN, AND APPLICATION OF THE BRAKE DEVELOPED ENOUGH PRESSURE TO PARTIALLY OR FULLY FRACTURE THE BRAKE PIPE, BRAKE PEDAL TRAVEL WOULD IMMEDIATELY INCREASE AND FRONT BRAKE PERFORMANCE WOULD BE REDUCED. OR, IF THE BRAKE PIPE WALL AT THE SCORING LOCATION PARTIALLY OR FULLY FRACTURED DUE TO A COMBINATION OF PRESSURE, VIBRATION, OR TEMPERATURE INDUCED FATIGUE, THE BRAKE PEDAL TRAVEL WOULD IMMEDIATELY INCREASE AND FRONT BRAKE PERFORMANCE WOULD BE REDUCED. IN THESE INSTANCES, BRAKING WOULD BE LIMITED TO THAT AVAILABLE WITH THE REMAINING HALF SYSTEM (REAR BRAKES).
Consequence:
IF THIS OCCURS WHEN STOPPING DISTANCE IS LIMITED, A CRASH COULD OCCUR.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE LEFT-FRONT BRAKE PIPE. GM HAS NOT YET PROVIDED AN OWNER NOTIFICATION SCHEDULE. OWNERS WHO TAKE THEIR VEHICLES TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER ON AN AGREED UPON SERVICE DATE AND DO NOT RECEIVE THE FREE REMEDY WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME SHOULD CONTACT CHEVROLET AT 1-800-222-1020, GMC AT 1-800-462-8782, OR OLDSMOBILE AT 1-800-442-8006.
#10982 of 18329 brake line recall by ficuss
Apr 28, 2003 (5:40 pm)
Ah...remember the good ol days when the 02 Tripletts at least had good brake lines. This will get the board going again. Way to go GM.Frank
#10983 of 18329 service engine soon by aldan93
Apr 28, 2003 (5:48 pm)
Gosh I love driving my 2003 TB with The SERVICE ENGINE SOON LIGHT ON! I paid 26K for this! Only in a America, this will be number 7 trip to the dealer, the folder is getting thick!#10984 of 18329 Defining GM by ficuss
Apr 28, 2003 (7:11 pm)
They seem to loose ground as they go forward. I like to call it progressive regression.Frank
#10985 of 18329 GM by aldan93
Apr 28, 2003 (7:54 pm)
Its sad, but after so so so many years making vehicles, they still have not figured it out? Vibrations, rattles, other stuff, man you have got to be kidding if this pace of problems keeps up, I'm gettin rid of it, buy me a KIA, Nah just kiddin! Maybe a HYBRID $1.98 a gallon in NY gets old! I quit smokin, I smoke a pack every 2 gallons in this vehicle!!! HE HE#10986 of 18329 Engine Knock by ees1996
Apr 28, 2003 (8:03 pm)
I have developed a knock in the engine. Sounds pretty bad. The knock is not there when the engine is cold but it comes up when it is warm. Reminds me of the piston slap sound in the other vortec engines. Any suggesstions#10987 of 18329 2003 TB/Envoy brake recall / nasty service advisor by seiford
Apr 29, 2003 (5:07 am)
Don't bother asking your dealer about that recall yet. They haven't received documentation from GM on the repair procedures. My Envoy was at the dealer yesterday for a different issue and when my husband asked about the recall the Service Advisor swore at him.Anyone ever have a data recorder hooked up to their triplet? Dealer can't figure out the "stutter" or miss that our 2003 Envoy is doing at idle so after pressuring them to do something they hooked up a data recorder. I hope it can give them some clues.
And unlike the 2002 TB's there wasn't a PCM update for sluggish 1-2 upshift when cold.
I'm pretty disappointed in the customer service at our local GMC dealer. Anyone in the Minneapolis/St. Paul area have a GMC dealer that they've had good service at?
#10988 of 18329 nasty service advisor by seiford by tblazed
Apr 29, 2003 (6:29 am)
"My Envoy was at the dealer yesterday for a different issue and when my husband asked about the recall the Service Advisor swore at him."When you get the "Service Satisfaction Survey" from GM be sure to fill it out accurately and quote what that so-called "service advisor" said. Amazing how some of these characters seem so put out when asked about TSBs or recalls, even though that's their JOB!! GM actually does seem to be interested in customer feedback. The 3 times my TB has been in for service in the past 15 months, each time within a couple of weeks I have received a questionnaire and a followup "reminder to fill it out" card a week later.
#10989 of 18329 Re: nasty service advisor by kgbkahnk
Apr 29, 2003 (7:16 am)
.....And I'd be sure to hunt down the service advisor's supervisor and give them an earful as well. That is totally unacceptable behavior from a service rep!#10990 of 18329 2003 envoy stutter by ficuss
Apr 29, 2003 (8:29 am)
seiford, does your envoy have the automatic load leveler? If so, the compressor may be causing a voltage drop when it kicks in. If your RPM'S are low at the same time the compressor kicks in, the voltage regulator may not be able to provide enough power to sustain the engine operation. The RPM's will drop to nearly zero, the engine may feel like it is about to stall. Several others have posted this quirk. It may also be implicated in the "engine stalling at high speeds" complaints.Good luck
Frank
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