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Chevrolet TrailBlazer, GMC Envoy, Buick Rainier, GMC Envoy XL, Isuzu Ascender, Oldsmobile Bravada, SUV
#10730 of 18329 Self Damaging Trailblazer
Mar 30, 2003 (5:29 pm)
I have a 2002 Trailblazer that is throwing road debris from the front tires onto the flanged area in front of the rear tires. I have 13000 miles on it. It has never been off road. In conversations with Chevrolet they will not do anything to make it right. I asked for mudflaps and repaint of the area. Since then I have discovered two more Trailblazers with the same damage. Since the 2003 and 2002's are the same body design it will be a problem with both. Everyone should check their vehicle immediately and if you find damage file a complaint. I will be contacting the attorney general and the BBB. I, also plan to provide this information to dealers so that they will be under pressure to get this design problem taken care of.
#10731 of 18329 mudflaps for road debris
Mar 30, 2003 (5:35 pm)
That's why mudflaps are made for all cars and trucks. Because they all throw road debris. Your trailblazer is not unique. Look at your tire tread, any rock or item of road debris will be picked up and thrown back.
BTW road debris comes from roads, going off road would cause your tires to throw "off-road" debris.
#10732 of 18329 Re: Road Debris
Mar 30, 2003 (5:53 pm)
The factory running boards do great at keeping the rear flanged area damage free. Also, they don't retract from the appearance like mud-flaps do (IMHO). Not to mention, the possible vibration issue they cause. I've driven my 2002 Envoy through two Chicago Winters and only have one paint chip. It's on the front of the hood and was caused by following too close to a salt truck.
#10733 of 18329 Running boards are a must
Mar 30, 2003 (5:55 pm)
I have a body shop and made many repairs on chips from tires. Every vehicle does it. Mud flaps will help will not completely solve the problem in all cases. Running boards is a must on trailblazers and Envoy. Hope my input helps you.Also i do work for a dealer and in most cases they will not paint something like that.
Mar 31, 2003 (5:59 am)
Anyone who takes one look at the TB/Envoy will instantly know that there will be chipping in the flanged area in front of the rear wheels. It is part of the design to give the appearance that we all like. I got both the factory running boards and added the GM mud flaps and have had no problem in almost 2 years and 23,000 miles on my Envoy. There is nothing the Attorney General or the BBB can or will do in a case like this. At some point we need to take some personal responsibility for our actions and realize that vehicles that are driven WILL get some wear and tear. I put a bug guard on the front end to protect from rock chips on the hood. I still have gotten a door ding despite my best efforts. Unless we all want to keep our vehicles in the garage wrapped in bubble wrap, things are going to happen. It is hardly the fault of the manufacturer.
Mar 31, 2003 (6:16 am)
Anyone here subscribe to any a service to get the TSBs? I checked Alldata ($24.95/yr) and it seems they only have data for up to model year 2001.
#10736 of 18329 Re: TSB Source
Mar 31, 2003 (7:03 am)
At my local library (St Louis and St Charles MO) they have free access to ALLDATA which will give you the complete TSBs. They do have them for 2003 cars, I have looked up all the TSBs for my 2003 Envoy using that site.
You have to physically be at the library using their computer but since it is free that is not such a bad deal. ALLDATA subscriptions cost money as you have found out. So maybe check your local library!
#10737 of 18329 Fog lights question ( sorry if duplicate question )
Mar 31, 2003 (8:27 am)
I am slowly but surely modifying my Trailblazer. Just installed teh K&N filter ( thanks to all who helped ) now I have a new mission. I have a 2002 LS with no fog lights. I bought a pair at Autozone and tried to install them then realized how complicated it would get and I just got frustrated and returned them. However, I want to have the Original ones installed and I just called my service dept to schedule an oil change and he said he would look at the wiring harness to give me an estimate when I bring it in. The question I have is....has anyone had this done at their dealership? If so how much did it cost? Was the wiring harness ready for fog lights? Any light anyone can shed on this would be greatly appreciated and I apologize if this question has been discussed before.
2002 Trailblazer LS
#10738 of 18329 Bravada update
Mar 31, 2003 (9:25 am)
Still chugging along fine with our 02 Bravada. No issues to report but we did get a flying rock in the windshield which cracked the thing badly. Not covered under warranty, no surprise there.
Anyone know if this the last year for the Bravada? I saw in the paper the 04 Rainier is coming soon.
#10739 of 18329 Re: self damaging TB
Mar 31, 2003 (9:25 am)
Thanks for your responses. I am still going to have at them if for no other reason than to give them some static over what looks to be a poor design, IMHO. I have looked at several other SUV's and haven't found many that even come close to this design. I, too put a bug guard on my TB right off the floor. I had a full sized van that the first year I owned it it had big time damage on the front. Bug guard fixed that after repainting. Thanks again, everyone.