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Chevrolet TrailBlazer, GMC Envoy, Buick Rainier, GMC Envoy XL, Isuzu Ascender, Oldsmobile Bravada, SUV
Mar 07, 2003 (6:35 pm)
Did anyone get the 2003 auto issue yet? The triplets are at the very bottom of their predicted reliability rankings for midsize & large SUVs. Dead last. Even the BMW X5, which has had its fair share of problems, did better at -100%.
Chevrolet Trailblazer -116%
GMC Envoy -116%
Oldsmobile Bravada -191%
These percentages are in comparison to the average reliability of 2000, 2001, and 2002 vehicles in their survey (0% being average). Doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy feeling.
Mar 07, 2003 (6:37 pm)
Is it also a painted wheel, or is a cheaper one?
It's just a black steel wheel that won't look very attractive on your SUV.
Mar 07, 2003 (6:38 pm)
50% highway 50% city , I'm averaging around 18, My explorer never even got 19mpg on 100% highway! Has anyone got 22 MPG? on the highway with a TB? IN-6 , just curious.
Mar 07, 2003 (6:49 pm)
My best was in September, 23.6 mpg for a 220 mile all interstate round trip 65-70 mph, not many hills and no wind either way, a couple miles city. This was calculated after fillup, no DIC reading.
'02 Tb SL. tim
#10456 of 18329 Glad to know I am not alone but sorry for everyone...
Mar 07, 2003 (7:13 pm)
with this problem . i am so upset at the fact that this is the second time I have gotten a new Chevy with problems. The 2000 Venture I had was the worst at less then 3 months they replaced the tranny and had to re-paint a portion of the bumper (it was Peeling). I fell in love with the trailblazer because everyone here (STATEN ISALND) NY seems to have the durango . Well now with the small but annoying problems with the trailblazer I can see why my dear husband didn't want this car and tried talking me into another mini van but one by honda. I am glad I leased this car and didn't purchase it as I see there are a lot of different problems that GM can't seem to fix. If anyone finds a solution to this problem please let us know . I hope it doesn't turn out to be anything major. Thanks for listening to me rant a little too I am just so crazy that the dealership made me sound nuts and like I didn't know anything .
Mar 07, 2003 (7:21 pm)
"Has anyone got 22 MPG? on the highway with a TB? IN-6"
I've in fact gotten better than 22 MPG in my Bravada. While on a trip from south Texas to Washington state we went though Yellowstone National Park. I filled up just before entering the park, went though on cruise control at the posted speed limits, which were quite slow because it took all day, stopped numerous times for pictures and such. Filled back up after we got through Yellowstone and doing the old trip odometer miles divided by fill up receipt gallons it came out be a little over 24 MPG so no DIC trickery either. I was shocked since we were no where near highway speeds. The averages during the trip outside of Yellowstone varied between 19-22 MPG. All of this mileage was done with the odometer starting at 2,081 miles and by the end of the trip I had 9032 miles on the odometer. Of course lately I've only been getting 13-14 MPG but I haven't gone on any long trips recently either.
Mar 07, 2003 (9:07 pm)
I love my Envoy. I've had several "problem" vehicles in the past - import and domestic. I think GM really outdid themselves with these triplets. There's nothing to compare them with in their price range. Yes, anyone can get a bad one, and I feel your pain. I had a '98 Bravada that I couldn't wait to get rid of. But, even on its best day, it was still a prehistoric monster on four wheels, compared to the Envoy. For everyone riding the edge on purchasing one of these, as Nike says, "Just Do It!"
#10459 of 18329 Attn: ANY SUGGESTIONS vibrating gas pedal? Regards,Bob
Mar 08, 2003 (4:49 am)
Bob, Thanks for the axle update. My envoy is going in 2 weeks and they will put on a machine that measures harmonics. Armed with that info they will work with GMC to see where it is coming from. Just maybe, they will be able to see where to go from there. I am going to tell them about your rear axle partial fix as well. Keep taking it back to get your lemon law attempts in and then arbitrate. I think thats free and maybe you can get something different.
P.S. See why I picked my screen name? I don't trust GM for more than 2 years. After owning a blazer, I am a battered spouse of GM!
P.S. What did you mean by the number in your post, REAR drive shaft (F1280)?
#10460 of 18329 only people with car problems are posters.. by ficuss
Mar 08, 2003 (5:18 am)
Frank,I didn't mean to insult anyone. The point I am trying to make is that when I have the TB, I will certainly post my initial comments here. If things go well, chances are I will post once and forget about this site. If I have problems, I will be back here daily trying to find out how others corrected it. I do believe most people are like that.
There are no doubt in my mind that there are many problems with the triplets. I do trust GM to fix them. I wouldn't trust Ford (they never fixed the transmission problem on the Aerostar, which was sold with an extremely poor trany for over 10 years). I also agree with you that perhaps these vehicle were sent on the road without proper testing. On the other hand, I have also found many owners who had no problem at all, which is very hard to explain.
This is why I (1) ordered the vehicle to get the latest off the line and perhaps they will have adjusted the line a little and (2) I am leasing this vehicle. If I get one of those lemmons, they will get it right back.
My comments do not aim at insulting anyone. This site and the comments people make are extremely valuable to me. I can guarantee you that my test drive will be extremely thorough. Every perk reported here will be checked and any "vibration" on the gaz pedal and I am not buying that car!
#10461 of 18329 LED lights & WD-40 for wiper
Mar 08, 2003 (6:35 am)
I think the Line of Fire LED light looks pretty cool on the back of a truck. Not sure how it would install on a Triplet. I did not see any response when asked if anyone had it on their Envoy/TB. I hope someone will post a review if they use it.
Update: 14,000 miles on '02 Envoy SLT. Winter mpg is 18.4 (DIC) No problems. However, I did spray WD-40 on rear wiper blade joint. Worked great. Blade wipes better and returns to the holder like it should. Good tip!