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What is this discussion about? Chevrolet TrailBlazer, GMC Envoy, Buick Rainier, GMC Envoy XL, Isuzu Ascender, Oldsmobile Bravada, SUV

#10417 of 18329 Re: hissing/whistling noise by v8ext by nuyorkah

Mar 05, 2003 (5:56 pm)

"Are they any V8 EXT/XL owners out there that hear a hissing or whistling noise coming from the engine when accelerating, or in particular when you are going 55-75mph holding a constant speed? This noise can be heard best between 55-75mph when just pressing pedal slightly then releasing, to hold a constant speed. Please let me know, or listen to your engine. Or if anyone has an idea of what could cause this type of noise. My dealer has been of no help so far. Thanks."

Came across a new TSB today it mentions "Whistle Noise.".
I know its not exactly your symptoms but hey you never know.

TSB 03-04-19-002
Subject:Squeak, Squeal or Whistle Noise From Front Axle(Replace Intermediate Axle Seal and/or Differential Carrier Seal)

Models: 2002 2003 Chevrolet TrailBlazer 4WD
2002 2003 GMC Envoy 4WD
2002 2003 Oldsmobile Bravada AWD

Condition:
Some customers may comment on a high pitched squeal, squeak or whistle noise in the front end of the vehicle. This noise usually occurs once per wheel revolution. This may be more common in cold weather below 50C (40F). The noise may be coming from the right front axle intermediate shaft housing outboard seal or the left outer differential carrier seal. For testing purposes, spraying a lubricant on the seal should temporarily reduce the noise. This noise should not be mistaken for a wheel bearing issue.

Cause:
A lack of lubrication in the seal may cause this condition.

#10418 of 18329 Bravada Update by cebteb

Mar 05, 2003 (11:34 pm)

Just had my first oil change, 3,000 miles, on my '03 Bravada. Couldn't find any warranty issues for the dealer to work. Can't find much to complain about with this vehicle except gas mileage (still at about 14.2 for all around driving) and seats that let you slip around on hard corners. But, those seats are almost twice as wide as the ones in my '91 S-10 Blazer and twice as soft. I'll deal with the slide, just wear my seatbelt.

So far this '03 Bravada continues to be the finest automotive vehicle I've owned, driven, or ridden in. The ride is so quiet and smooth regardless of the weather or road conditions. The engine deserves the 10 best-in-the-world rating it got from the automotive engineers. I realized after a while that when I "stomped" on the gas for quick acceleration, I didn't feel any affect on the vehicle from the engine reving to 6K rpm. No shake. No vibration. No noise. The only noise I was hearing was the exhaust pitch. Wow, what a well engineered motor!

The other thing I've really come to appreciate is the brakes. Best damn brakes on anything I've ever driven. Stopping is totally proportional to pedal pressure, not slight with the early travel and hard with the final travel, like 99% of other vehicle's brakes. With the Bravada, I can stop on the dime w/o ever causing my passengers to feel the slightest lean forward. Now that is brake control.

On our slick roads the past few weeks, the ABS stopped the truck fast and true. Never had anything but pure straight-ahead stopping w/o a slide on even "black ice". Followed an Audi Quattro to work this morning on slick roads and had to give him some more distance. He was slip-sliding on all the highway curves and couldn't stop in anywhere near the distance the Bravada could. So much for euro-engineering.

Anyway, the point of this post is to once again note for others that some of the "Triplets" are fine SUVs and a good choice for those looking to buy now.

#10419 of 18329 For those who traded in their TB/ENvoy.... by darthkim

Mar 06, 2003 (1:40 am)

Guys,

How was the trade in value for the TB/Envoy for those who traded in a 02 for a 03 or any year tb for another vehicle? ( no lemon trade ins, etc)

I have no gripes against my 03 TB, but wanted to get a little bigger vehicle (tahoe/yukon). Got lowballed on my 1 month TB (LS, black, package 3) and was wondering how everyone else did.

#10420 of 18329 Re: For those who traded in their TB/ENvoy.... by darthkim by tlauro

Mar 06, 2003 (4:56 am)

Not sure what the details were, but if you're trading in an 03 TB that's just a few weeks old, you're gonna take a big hit. Most likely the dealer will give you 10% less than dead, net-net cost to them on a new one. that's if there's less than 5k in miles on it. Pretty standard really. Perhaps less now though since there are so many promo's and finance deals out there on the new ones.

Good luck on the venture.

tim

#10421 of 18329 Re: For those who traded in their TB/ENvoy by paulyjsob

Mar 06, 2003 (5:15 am)

I traded in my 02 TB LS 4x4 with 11700 miles and got $21,500 in trade. That was up from the initial offer of $18,100. KBB listed the TB as $21,210. Good luck!

#10422 of 18329 trade in vaules.... by gator36

Mar 06, 2003 (7:31 am)

Everyone should keep in mind that trade in vaules are depressed across the board. Due to the incentives give by manufacturers for the last 2 years, there is a glut of used vehicles on the market. In true economic terms of Supply Vs. Demand, a huge supply equals a low demand and consequently low $$$$$.

#10423 of 18329 Power Mirror by oskris

Mar 06, 2003 (8:09 am)

Installing power mirrors was very simple. Everything was �plug-and-play�. You need to take off the door panels on both sides. On the driver side you will need to cut a hole for the mirror switch. That was the worst part � and there is no margin for error. I would advise you to take measurements from the car with that switch factory installed, trace the center on your panel and then cut it. I have a picture of the panel with this hole. I can email it to you. Good luck with your project.

#10424 of 18329 Power mirrors by paulyjsob

Mar 06, 2003 (8:12 am)

Thanks a lot for the info... I will attempt this project as soon as I can get some mirrors. Anyway, if you could send me pictures, that would be great. My email is psobkiew

i2sworld.com. Thanks!

#10425 of 18329 Question about 02 TB LS 4x4 by rye78

Mar 06, 2003 (10:56 am)

I have an 02 TB LS 4x4 that came without a key less entry system. I added a Viper remote start and alarm to the truck in September of 2002. Since then I have had the remote start and alarm replaced 4 times because it has been causing problems with the truck. Twice the brain unit of the alarm burned out and twice the alarm shut the starter off on me so I couldn't start it. The alarm thought the truck was being stolen. Well it acted up on me again yesterday and wouldn't start. My question is this. Has anyone else added a Viper brand remote start and alarm and/or have they had any problems with it?
BTW, it was installed at Circuit City and the tech there thinks the computer on the truck is throwing codes to the alarm and the alarm doesn't understand them. He says it is because the TB has a new computer and the specs for the computer are not programed for the alarm.
Anyone have any input? Living in Chicago I really love the remote start during the winter but I am sick of being stuck somewhere with a brand new Tb and it wont start!

#10426 of 18329 What if I still want to buy one? by husky92

Mar 06, 2003 (12:08 pm)

Despite all of the problems that have been reported here, we still really like the Envoy XL. So IF I do end up buying one still, what kind of precautions should I take before actually accepting the vehicle?

Doors: What do you look for? Is the wind noise people have complained about related to the door alignment issues? I assume you should take it on the freeway and drive at least 60 to reproduce the wind noise.

Other issues?

Should I just run away?

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