Last post on Nov 29, 2013 at 2:06 PM
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#5370 of 5378 Re: Affordability of a 2010 BMW 328i [mrpeach84]
Oct 06, 2013 (8:08 am)
i was told once that the average maintenance cost is like $1500/year for bmw.
#5371 of 5378 Re: Affordability of a 2010 BMW 328i [tlw6]
Oct 06, 2013 (9:04 am)
Unless you cheat and find a good and reasonable repair shop. That is the ONLY reason I went back to European after owning a Saab and Audi many years ago. And, I bought used, contrary to the norm of bailing out before the warranty ends. The certicication just ended on our 08 528i w/50k and I'm waiting for my first and last expensive surprise. Also have a Z3 which is a much better fit for my comfort zone. Not so complicated. I don't need headlights that go up and down plus side to side. Just something more to go wrong and enhance dealer profit.
#5372 of 5378 Re: Affordability of a 2010 BMW 328i [tlw6]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Oct 16, 2013 (9:27 am)
I think that estimate is about right for an out of warranty German car in good condition. Of course, that $1500 a year estimate has to be averaged out over a few years. Some years you're luckier than others. Also, this estimate does not include catastrophic failures, only maintenance and "expendables" that all cars need.
Also, many owners find ways to cut costs--either by using a good independent repair shop, and also joining the BMW club (https://www.bmwcca.org/index) and taking advantage of member discounts as well as excellent repair and maintenance tips found in the DIY forums.
Of course, you will find BMW owners here at Edmunds who are very helpful and easier to access than joining a club.
#5373 of 5378 Re: Affordability of a 2010 BMW 328i [MrShift@Edmunds]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Oct 16, 2013 (3:19 pm)
My dealer runs an oil change special for $79 on my model, most of the time.. So, I try to take it in every 6 months... then, they come back with a list of what the car needs... and, I take that to my independent (all makes) and they save me about 30% over the dealer's quote..
My dealer is very good.. My car was CPO, so they worked on it until it was 6 years old... they don't up-sell... so, if they say you need it, you need it, and my independent mechanic confirms it.. The dealer has so much more experience with my model car than a general independent could have, so it's nice having them scope out the problems. My independent is a very good, as well, so no issues having them do the work I request...
It works for me.. I'd say about $150-$200 per month for repair and maintenance... on average...
#5374 of 5378 F30 2013 328i Loose Tail Lens
Nov 03, 2013 (9:57 am)
My new 328i sedan trunk tail light lens continually pops out. Besides being pissed about this quality control issue on an expensive new car, the dealer has been unable to solve the problem. The dealer says they use an adhesive to secure the lens. I cannot see any adhesive on the repair. I have heard that this is an issue on the 2012-2103 F30s. Has anyone had this issue and what was done to fix the problem?
#5375 of 5378 Re: F30 2013 328i Loose Tail Lens [beege52]
Nov 03, 2013 (1:51 pm)
I spend a fair amount of time on a couple of BMW-specific forums, but this is the fire case I've seen anything like your issue.
I'm thinking you may have a dealer issue moreso than a BMW issue. I don't think BMW did anything radically different in the taillight lens dept. on the F30 than the E90 model.
#5376 of 5378 Battery replacement causing electrical problems?
Nov 29, 2013 (12:44 am)
I have a 2007 335i hard top convertible, 109K miles. The battery light was coming on so I took it to a local mechanic who does BMW service. He has good yelp reviews and I just moved here. He replaced the battery and "registered" it. As I drove off the lot I hear a noise I thought was an airplane overhead. 6 blocks later I realized it was my car and turned around. Before I got back the water light came on (temp was fine). When he opened the hood the auxiliary fan was blowing. He hooked up the diagnostic scanner and it gave a water pump indicator as well as several other indicators. After a long discussion he admitted the battery didn't need to be replaced but since that's what I asked for that's what he did. He agreed to put the old battery back in and try to figure out what's going on.
I can't find anything on-line about what might be going on, but common sense, a decent knowledge of cars, and putting together some things he said is hinting at a couple of things. Could he have registered the battery wrong? Could he have used the wrong battery (there are 2 potential batteries for this model and I don't believe they are interchangeable)? Could either of these 2 things either be causing a false reading on the scan, or have messed up the electrical system? Has anyone had a situation where the battery was replaced and the electric water pump blew as a result? Any other ideas?
#5377 of 5378 Re: Battery replacement causing electrical problems? [moorejoy]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Nov 29, 2013 (8:52 am)
i don't see a connection unless he blew a fuse somehow during installation. The 'wrong' battery would relate to size, not voltage. Or, if the car ran without sufficient coolant, it could damage the pump; or if the car's cooling system is not filled according to BMW procedure, that could damage the pump.
A battery light would not necessarily warrant a battery replacement, so really, in hindsight, the car should have been scanned first, and codes extracted, and then the charging system checked, before anything else was done.
hard to say what happened given the info you provided.
#5378 of 5378 Re: Battery replacement causing electrical problems? [moorejoy]
Nov 29, 2013 (2:06 pm)
I agree with MrShift. 12 volt car batteries are all the same voltage, and since registering the battery is done to tell the car's charging system the optimum charging characteristics, its doubtful a new battery by itself caused any issue.
Frankly, I'd be a bit skeptical about any mechanic that would simply replace a battery without doing a load test first, if for no other reason than to prove the battery was bad rather than a fault in the charging system.
So, personally, I'd have doubts in this shop's competency level, based upon your comments.
As for your problem's cause, its difficult to say from the info provided. BMW water pumps seem to have a higher failure rate after around 75-80K miles, and many owners replace them around that benchmark mileage as a preventive measure.