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#5116 of 5349 Re: Have you ever [luckybelly] by roadburner

Aug 27, 2011 (6:25 am)

Replying to: luckybelly (Aug 27, 2011 1:05 am)
So are you and Mr. Shiftright saying BMW is now recommending to perform ATF service on E46 era 3 series built transmissions.?
 
Yes.
 
Since the original question was about a transmissions installed on a E46 and NOT a E83.
 
I take it that you aren't aware of the fact that both vehicles(2003 325xi Touring and 2004 E83) use a GM A5S 390R automatic transmission.
 
Perhaps a BMW TSB # and/or link from BMW to support this statement would be most enlightening and add to this discussion.
 
Perhaps rhmass can check his Service and Warranty Information booklet and tell us what BMW recommended for the car that you said didn't require ATF changes.

#5117 of 5349 Re: I've Been Waiting . . . [luckybelly] by roadburner

Aug 27, 2011 (6:42 am)

Replying to: luckybelly (Aug 27, 2011 1:39 am)
Perhaps roadburner has significant knowledge and experience however, he has no first hand experience with the master-technician that was in question to discredit him.
 
What more do I need to know? You esteemed "Master Tech" recommended against performing a service that BMW specifically recommends.
 
I chose higher road than he did.
 
I stand in awe of your magnanimous gesture.
 
I gave the information accurate and about the fact that on E46 transmissions it was not recommended to change AT fluid.
 
No you didn't. You stated:
1) Most all BMW since mid to late '90s come with lifetime transmission fluid.
and
Also if you were to look in the owners manual for service, it does NOT require AT service.
But now you say you that you were only referring to the E46. Right.
 
And not discredit someone I have no first knowledge about.
 
One more time- "Master Tech" recommended against changing the ATF fluid, period- even though BMW calls for a change at 100,000 miles. He didn't say "Wait until the 100,000 mile service. He said don't do it. He was wrong.

#5118 of 5349 A bit more data... by roadburner

Aug 27, 2011 (3:14 pm)

Herewith a page from an E46 Service and Warranty Information booklet:
 

 
BMW changed from "Lifetime Fill" to a 100,000 ATF change interval in 2002.

#5119 of 5349 Re: A bit more data... [roadburner] by luckybelly

Aug 28, 2011 (5:08 pm)

Replying to: roadburner (Aug 27, 2011 3:14 pm)
roadburner - Your highness - I stand corrected if it is from a 02 E46, - I think you should discredit someone who you don't know. I personally don't know that Master Tech in question but please go ahead and continue to dispense your opinions, after all its an open forum.
 
BTW: Interesting how you highlighted all but failed to read MOST. In my statement. Hmmm. OK.
It seems you only read and listen what you want. But thats ok. I am bored of this conversation.

#5120 of 5349 Re: A bit more data... [luckybelly] by roadburner

Aug 28, 2011 (5:44 pm)

Replying to: luckybelly (Aug 28, 2011 5:08 pm)
I am bored of this conversation.
 
Look on the bright side, at least we both now agree that the Master Technician in question gave incorrect advice!

#5121 of 5349 While The Vast Majority. . . by cdnpinhead

Aug 28, 2011 (6:24 pm)

of the people who post on the internet are questionable in terms of their background and/or knowledge, some actually know what they're talking about.
 
New posters are liable to be considered somewhat guilty until proven otherwise, unlike people who have been posting here for a decade or more.
 
Try not to make incendiary statements. This is a lesson it took me a number of years to learn, and I still have a number of "slips." There are many people on Edmunds who still won't respond to my posts, based on stuff I posted 8-10 years ago.
 
One sleeps in the bed one makes.

#5122 of 5349 Re: While The Vast Majority. . . [cdnpinhead] by roadburner

Aug 28, 2011 (7:59 pm)

Replying to: cdnpinhead (Aug 28, 2011 6:24 pm)
Try not to make incendiary statements. This is a lesson it took me a number of years to learn, and I still have a number of "slips." There are many people on Edmunds who still won't respond to my posts, based on stuff I posted 8-10 years ago.
 
Really? You've always struck me as being pretty easy going. You do have a low tolerance for BS and incompetence, but then so do I...

#5123 of 5349 Re: A bit more data... [luckybelly] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Aug 29, 2011 (9:54 am)

Replying to: luckybelly (Aug 28, 2011 5:08 pm)
The best thing you can do for Master Tech is to show him the BMW notation---in this way, he dispenses better advice or at least evaluates the notation for validity. No one can be right 100% of the time, not even Einstein.
 
The technician you want to avoid is not the one who makes the occasional mistake, but the one who insists that you can't teach him anything new.
 
Come back and tell us what he says about all this.
 
The whole point of these forums is to help make your car run safely and reliably.

#5124 of 5349 Re: A bit more data... [Mr_Shiftright] by roadburner

Aug 29, 2011 (10:15 am)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Aug 29, 2011 9:54 am)
No one can be right 100% of the time, not even Einstein.
 
Agreed, but what concerns me is that this guy is still relying on a service regimen that BMW abandoned almost 10 years ago.

#5125 of 5349 Re: A bit more data... [roadburner] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Aug 29, 2011 (10:21 am)

Replying to: roadburner (Aug 29, 2011 10:15 am)
Well he apparently didn't get the memo. It's so hard to keep up on everything these days, what with all the new tech, so things are bound to fall through the cracks---even obvious things. I mean, look how long it has taken the general public to accept longer oil changes. And some of the people who are most adamant about changing oil at 3,000 miles are very smart, very educated.
 
So it's a question of taking the time, (or HAVING the time) to read up on the latest evidence and saying "oh, I see...the basis for my info has changed".

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