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#4975 of 5349 Re: 2008 335xi Twin Turbo [rfl]
by busiris
Feb 02, 2011 (4:38 pm)
3 strikes and you're out. I had 3 HPFP failures (2 of them dangerous one's at high speed) on my 2008 335XI.
The problem has been continuing for over 4 years now. Now, immediately after a network news expose' showing the issue over national network TV, an immediate fix/recall was announced.
That might be good enough for some, but before I dropped 50+ Large on a new 335, I would want a little more evidence showing the fix is indeed a "fix".
This is not the small, insignificant issue that some would like to believe.
BTW, I own 3 BMW products... A MINI convertible, Z4 Coupe and a 328I convertible, so I am definitely not anti-BMW...
#4976 of 5349 Re: 2008 335xi Twin Turbo [roadburner]
by busiris
Feb 02, 2011 (4:46 pm)
Note that I said "seems"- in any event, my comment was based on information from inside BMW NA, BMW SAs, and tech people outside of BMW. As you know, the recall also includes testing the injectors as well as software revisions. It's also well known that the majority of cars have never suffered HPFP failure while others are on their fourth or fifth HPFP. So yes, There have been prior "fixes"- but the latest fix seems to have worked.
I disagree with your conclusion, simply because the fix hasn't seen enough real-time & real-world testing.
It may indeed be the permanent fix, but for a company that has denied the issue for 4+ years to then state its been fixed simply isn't good enough for me personally.
And, yes, while the majority of owners may not have experienced the problems, what would you say would be an acceptable number?
1 out of 100? 2,3, 5 or 10 out of 100? That's still not a majority.
Do you know how many different versions of HPFP's have been involved?
If YOU have one of the 1,2,3, 5 or 10, then you would most likely feel its a much larger issue.
I would...
#4977 of 5349 Re: 2008 335xi Twin Turbo [busiris]
by roadburner
Feb 03, 2011 (2:41 pm)
If YOU have one of the 1,2,3, 5 or 10, then you would most likely feel its a much larger issue.
I would...
Well, I'm currently considering the purchase of a 335i, so I guess you could say I'm willing to back up my words with action.
#4978 of 5349 Re: 2008 335xi Twin Turbo [roadburner]
by busiris
Feb 04, 2011 (12:38 pm)
Its a nice car, and if you take the plunge I hope you don't see any of the problems associated with the HPFP.
As you said, 100% of the cars don't have the problems.
#4979 of 5349 Re: 2006 E90 steering wheel locked [Firebird_EOU]
by spx921
Feb 04, 2011 (2:01 pm)
Unfortunately, welcome to the club. My car had this happen when I was leaving to work. Had the vehicle towed to the dealer yesterday. Thankfully still has CPO. Unfortunately, they said they had to reprogram the car to see if this resolved the issue. Honestly, I do not think so. Probably needs whole new steering column. Contacted attorneys suing for minicooper Class Action to see if they want to take this up. I would file a complaint with NHTSA to make sure your issue is documented. Particularly since I called BMW and they state their is no investigation by the NHTSA. They are treating it as an isolated problem when there are many posts for E46 and E90 models, I believe X3 as well. Here is the link to file a NHTSA complaint: http://www.safercar.gov/link">
#4980 of 5349 Re: 2008 335xi Twin Turbo [busiris]
by carchick67
Feb 04, 2011 (6:29 pm)
I think I'm going to get a Pontiac G8 GT instead... it's serviced locally at a chevy dealer, the reviews are raving,, replacement parts won't be that expensive,,, although it's a Pontiac (never thought I would even think about it),, it's supposed to be an awesome sport sedan. Thanks ya'll!!
#4981 of 5349 Re: 2008 335xi Twin Turbo [carchick67]
by roadburner
Feb 04, 2011 (6:44 pm)
The G8 is a great car, but remember that it is built in Australia and replacement parts may well be an issue over the next few years. Edmunds had a long term G8 and they had to wait two weeks for brake pads- and this was over a year ago.
#4982 of 5349 Re: 2008 335xi Twin Turbo [roadburner]
by rhmass
Feb 05, 2011 (8:00 pm)
roadrunner, in your suggestion posted you mentioned replacing both the transfer box oil and the automatic transmission fluid. I was making appointment with the dealer today for the 60,000 miles (Inspection II) service on our 2006 325xiT. The service advisor told me the dealer's service foreman would not recommend such maintenance performed due to the potential damage to the respective components. I am now confused as to why he would discourage me for such services, since obviously I will be paying it our of my own pocket. Is there really a possibility for negative outcome from such service. Since my appointment is a week from now, so I still can insist on the services, if I want to do so.
What is your opinion on the reason the dealership wouldn't want to perform such service? TIA for your advice.
#4983 of 5349 2000 323ci fuel filter needed?
by kburger1
Feb 07, 2011 (6:56 am)
Any opinions on whether I should change my fuel filter or not? My 323ci has 325,000 miles on it (runs great too engine never rebuilt). It is easy to get to and change but it has never been changed. Will it damange my engine if I don't change it? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
#4984 of 5349 Re: 2008 335xi Twin Turbo [rhmass]
by roadburner
Feb 07, 2011 (1:51 pm)
The service advisor told me the dealer's service foreman would not recommend such maintenance performed due to the potential damage to the respective components.
My dealer performed a drain/fill on the automatic transmission(no filter R&R) and transfer case of my wife's X3 without any hesitation- the total bill was $207. If you want to replace the filter on the newer ZF autoboxes -like your car uses- you have to replace the oil pan and filter as a unit. and the new part costs
$270. Having said that, a simple darin/fill or the AT and TC is NOT rocket science, and I'd be very inclined to tell your SA that if the foreman doesn't think his shop is competent to handle what is a very simple job then you will find a shop that is qualified.
A few other observations:
BMW still calls for a 100,000 mile ATF change on most of their automatics; what does your dealer tell those customers?
The transfer case is equipped with sensors that actually indicate when the fluid needs to be changed and will indicate a fault when hooked up to the DISplus or GT1 diagnostic computer. Does your dealer just ignore the fault and send the customers down the road in blissful ignorance?
Just my $0.02...