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#4918 of 5349 Re: True Cost to Own 335i [bobtheb] by dan12

Jan 10, 2011 (9:14 pm)

Replying to: bobtheb (Jan 10, 2011 6:27 pm)
>> Edmund's 'True Cost to Own' tool says a 2008 335I Coupe will cost $8300 in maintenance and $7000 in repairs.
 
The first 4 years 50,000 miles cost $0 for maintenance and repairs since BMW offers a full maintenance and warranty for that period. You will have to pay for tires which are expensive, but everything else is covered.
 
You can then choose to extend your maintenance and warranty. For an additional 4 years and 50,000 miles, expect to pay about $2K for maintenance and $3.5K for the warranty. This is a bumper-to-bumper BMW warranty so there are very few exclusions. So if you are worried, you can always pay up front and enjoy your car. Btw, you can call a dealer and get more accurate pricing (you can haggle on this stuff so call multiple dealers).
 
The 335 does have a fuel pump problem though. I just had mine replaced. Google it and you will find lots of complaints. If you extend your warranty it won't cost you anything to fix it, but it can be a problem. Mine went out in the middle of the night 200+ miles away from home. Luckily it was OK for me to continue driving with "reduced power."

#4919 of 5349 Re: True Cost to Own 335i [dan12] by skobola

Jan 10, 2011 (10:49 pm)

Replying to: dan12 (Jan 10, 2011 9:14 pm)
I think that additional warranty is for additional 2 years and 50k miles, which would then cover the car up to 6 years and/or 100k miles, whichever comes first.

#4920 of 5349 Re: True Cost to Own 335i [bobtheb] by roadburner

Jan 11, 2011 (11:19 am)

Replying to: bobtheb (Jan 10, 2011 6:27 pm)
I think those TCO numbers are way off. My wife drives a 2004 X3 that we've owned since 12/05; it was a CPO with 16,600 miles on the clock. Now at 107,000 miles, it has needed exactly one repair(an SRS sensor under warranty). The brakes were replaced at 60K and the tires have been replaced twice. The total I've spent on maintenance and repairs is $3650- and that number includes $700 worth of maintenance that was performed that BMW doesn't call for (more frequent oil changes as well as ATF, transfer case oil, and coolant changes). Also note that all scheduled maintenance was performed at my local BMW dealer.
According to TCO a 2006 X3(the oldest X3 that they provide data for) would have needed $9612 in maintenance and $8553 in repairs over five years- or $14,515 more than I actually spent.
So yes, I'd say the TCO numbers might be a little inaccurate...

#4921 of 5349 Re: True Cost to Own 335i [pdude1] by rfl

Jan 11, 2011 (11:26 am)

Replying to: pdude1 (Jan 10, 2011 8:50 pm)
Three times! 3 replaced HPFPs. Bye Bye car!

#4922 of 5349 Re: True Cost to Own 335i [roadburner] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Jan 11, 2011 (12:00 pm)

Replying to: roadburner (Jan 11, 2011 11:19 am)
Well this is your particular good fortune--however, you aren't really calculating TCO correctly. It states:
 
"The Edmunds Inc. True Cost to Own® (TCO) pricing system calculates the additional costs you may not have included when considering your next vehicle purchase. These extra costs include: depreciation, interest on your loan, taxes and fees, insurance premiums, fuel costs, maintenance, and repairs. "

#4923 of 5349 Re: True Cost to Own 335i [rfl] by dan12

Jan 11, 2011 (1:27 pm)

Replying to: rfl (Jan 11, 2011 11:26 am)
When did you have the 3 HPFP's replaced? I just had mine replaced last week for the first time. I hope it doesn't fail again. I don't know what they replaced it with... it shouldn't be the same faulty part. That would be kinda stupid.
 
Anyone know if the HPFP problem is gone in the later turbo models? Or are these engines to be avoided on all new BMW models?

#4924 of 5349 Re: True Cost to Own 335i [Mr_Shiftright] by roadburner

Jan 11, 2011 (2:05 pm)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 11, 2011 12:00 pm)
Well this is your particular good fortune--however, you aren't really calculating TCO correctly. It states:
  
"The Edmunds Inc. True Cost to Own� (TCO) pricing system calculates the additional costs you may not have included when considering your next vehicle purchase. These extra costs include: depreciation, interest on your loan, taxes and fees, insurance premiums, fuel costs, maintenance, and repairs. "
 
Sorry, but I DID calculate my figures correctly. Check the 2006 BMW X3 TCO page. I only used the 5 year maintenance and repair figures- $9,612 and $8,553 respectively. I did not include or use the individual numbers for depreciation, fuel, financing, etc.

#4925 of 5349 Re: True Cost to Own 335i [dan12] by roadburner

Jan 11, 2011 (2:16 pm)

Replying to: dan12 (Jan 11, 2011 1:27 pm)
Anyone know if the HPFP problem is gone in the later turbo models? Or are these engines to be avoided on all new BMW models?
 
My friends inside and outside of BMW NA are cautiously optimistic that the latest HPFP and its accompanying software reflash have cured the problem once and for all. The HPFP issue is extremely hit or miss; I looked at one CPO 2007 335i with nearly 40,000 miles and it has never had a HPFP problem. Ditto for one friend who regularly tracked his E92 335i for two years. Then there are cars that have had 3 or more HPFPs before 30,000 miles. I have another friend who is a BMW SA and in his experience he has found that cars that are driven hard have been less likely to require a HPFP service.

#4926 of 5349 Re: True Cost to Own 335i [roadburner] by dan12

Jan 11, 2011 (6:47 pm)

Replying to: roadburner (Jan 11, 2011 2:16 pm)
My friends inside and outside of BMW NA are cautiously optimistic that the latest HPFP and its accompanying software reflash have cured the problem once and for all.
 
Thanks for the info. I hope this is the case. My HPFP failed after 48K miles. I don't drive too hard. I'm hoping to keep my car another 3-4 years up to about 100K miles. After that... I will probably stay away from turbo engines.

#4927 of 5349 Re: True Cost to Own 335i [dan12] by roadburner

Jan 11, 2011 (8:31 pm)

Replying to: dan12 (Jan 11, 2011 6:47 pm)
I'm hoping to keep my car another 3-4 years up to about 100K miles. After that... I will probably stay away from turbo engines.
 
Well, at least BMW has extended the warranty on the HPFP so you should be good. The rest of the car has proven to be pretty durable. I made a much more foolish purchase decision- my Mazdaspeed 3 needed a new turbo at 26,000 miles. And did I mention that it has cost more to repair and maintain than my X3 and 3 Series combined? That's the last time I will ever consider a car that doesn't come from Munich or Zuffenhausen.

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