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Re: My BMW will not start on occassion [widriver2] by HCM5
Jan 07, 2009 (5:43 pm)
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Replying to: widriver2 (Mar 06, 2008 8:26 am)

Did you ever figure out what was wrong? We have a 2004 330xi with just 20,000 miles that has been having the same problem. When you turn the key, the lights go on and there is a soft humming sound, but no engine ignition. Sometimes, if you give a 2nd quick turn of the key, the engine starts up fine. Once the car is "on" it's completely fine. First time was in March 2008. We had it checked at our dealership, everything checked out diagnostically, though they suspected the key could be a problem and then we didn't have any more problems for 9 months. Now, after our first really cold spell, the car is doing it again. We left it alone for a week over Christmas, then it started fine and we got it over to our dealership. They kept it for a week, again found nothing obviously wrong with it, and decided to try replacing our key. We brought the car home and within a few days, we had the same problem. It is now sitting in our garage. We will wait a few days, then try to start it and get it over to our dealership.
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BMW 330xi intermittently starting by HCM5
Jan 07, 2009 (5:54 pm)
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We have a 2004 BMW 330xi with 20,000 miles that is intermittently starting. We turn the key and all the lights go on, but there is no engine ignition or even any sound. Sometimes, if we follow with a quick 2nd turn, the car starts fine. First time in March 2008, had it fully checked at our BMW dealership, only duplicated the episode once and could not find anything obviously wrong, though they mentioned maybe the key was a problem. The car was completely fine for the next 9 months. Then a few weeks ago after our first cold spell, it started again. Same thing, first turn of the key, just the lights and maybe a slight whoosh or humming noise from the engine area. Maybe, will start with the 2nd quick key turn. We again took it to our dealership. They kept the car for a week, ran the same computer diagnostics, could find nothing wrong, and this time replaced the main key. We brought the car home and it started doing the same thing within 2 days. It is now stuck in our garage. We will wait a few days, hopefully it will start and we will take it back to our dealership and try again. Fortunately, we have an extended warranty on this car by having it BMW certified when we transitioned from a lease to a purchase. We decided to purchase this vehicle because we had not a lick of trouble with it for the first 3 1/2 years. Help? Does anyone have any ideas?
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Re: Oil separator issue [roadburner] by JunkOwner
Jan 07, 2009 (6:54 pm)
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Replying to: roadburner (Dec 29, 2008 9:17 pm)

Extremely sorry to hear of the problems; I recently bought a 2008 BMW 335i. Here's a list in 5 months:
 
1)Bad fuel pump (will cost $2000.00 when out of warranty. Scares me for the 335i, 535i and the 2009 Z4
2) Two window leaks and faulty operation
3) Transmission issues
4) Software issues out the ying-yang. It's been months and they have not fixed it yet. It induces turbo lag; BMW does not care about it because they only look at the future of new cars and not the current customers.
5) BMWNA does not support in any fashion whatsoever.
6) Cars are always in the shop and it's extremely crowded.
7) 8 times in the shop since Sep 2008
8) Missed time at work due to all the issues
 
Now that I have learned my lesson, I would never buy one of these reduced reliability cars; they are extremely poor quality. I do not believe you will make any headway with BMWNA, but I do recommend selling your car when it is feasible. I guarantee you I will do the same. These are just a few problems I noted; there is more....just makes me miss my trusty G35 as I think about it. Good Luck.
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Re: Oil separator issue [JunkOwner] by roadburner
Jan 07, 2009 (7:58 pm)
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Replying to: JunkOwner (Jan 07, 2009 6:54 pm)

I'd take the above post with about a ten pound grain of salt. Google "stealth marketing" and you'll see what I mean.
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Re: Oil separator issue [roadburner] by jetzzs
Jan 08, 2009 (7:10 am)
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Replying to: roadburner (Jan 07, 2009 7:58 pm)

I think taking it with a grain of salt is a good idea too!
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Not Pleased at all by montrealer1
Jan 08, 2009 (7:18 pm)
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I have a 2001 325i (130K miles). Oil Separator failed and it's going to cost me $1900. Yes, it was cold outside when it occurred. Apparently, the problem arises more often in cold climate areas.
 
BMWNA have gotten back to me and told me that there is nothing they can do for me. It's out of warranty. No goodwill, no sharing of costs,"sorry you're on your own".
 
I have been researching oil separator and BMW on the internet and apparently this seems to be a very popular reocurring problem.
 
Any sugggestions on what my next step should be? I feel that with all of the news around this issue, and what seems to be poorly manufactured/designed part, that something should be done to have BMW take on some responsibility.
 
Looking for help.
 
Thanks
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Re: Not Pleased at all [montrealer1] by roadburner
Jan 08, 2009 (8:30 pm)
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Replying to: montrealer1 (Jan 08, 2009 7:18 pm)

Is that the dealer price? Try a good independent BMW tech.
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Re: Not Pleased at all [montrealer1] by jetzzs
Jan 09, 2009 (5:48 am)
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Replying to: montrealer1 (Jan 08, 2009 7:18 pm)

We had the exact same issue with our 2001 330i (100,000 and out of warranty). Our estimate was $1600 (we live in Omaha, Nebraska).
 
I called BMWNA and told them this was a common problem that may be the result of an engineering flaw. The rep said, "these things usually stop here", meaning they would not help me. The next day he called back and said they would look into it and I was very surprised. They covered $1100. (see message 4068, in this message I was the mistaken about how much they covered, it was $1100 and not $900).
 
We have had several major repairs done with the dealer and all other repairs but oil changes (that was a bad idea=new oil pan twice, but that is another story). We also bought the car as certified used at the dealer. I am not sure if this had anything to do with the outcome.
 
I hope this is of some help and best of luck.
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Re: Update: oil separator issue [jetzzs] by jonsdad
Jan 09, 2009 (6:41 am)
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Replying to: jetzzs (Dec 30, 2008 7:59 am)

I think the key for you is they treated you well is that you gave BMW (and its dealership) business other than the sale.
 
I am not saying you should always use dealership, but when you do and something outside of warranty occurs. Dealership and Manufacturer tend to take care of you.
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Re: Not Pleased at all [montrealer1] by qbrozen
Jan 09, 2009 (7:59 am)
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Replying to: montrealer1 (Jan 08, 2009 7:18 pm)

not sure why someone should be so disappointed that they have a major repair on a vehicle with 130K miles. Hell, my '93 mazda developed a cracked head at 118k miles, yet I never complained once about it nor has it soured me on mazdas in the least. I put $4k into repairing my volvo before it reached 115k miles (and that was just parts, as I did the work myself), yet I still love volvos and would buy another one in a heartbeat.
 
ya know, there are engines and transmissions out there that don't last 130k miles. Everything fails eventually. Doesn't mean they are poorly manufactured/designed (ok, maybe some), and it certainly doesn't mean the manufacturer should be held liable.

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