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Re: re 335 xi 8800 miles fuel pump problem [xeye] by ursamajor
Dec 23, 2008 (11:12 pm)
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Replying to: xeye (Oct 08, 2008 2:32 am)

I have a 2008 335xi with 6500 miles, 10 months into 3yr lease. Today, the idle became rough, the engine malfunctioned, diagnostic warning message appeared requiring me to proceed with caution to the nearest dealer. I barely made it a mile after the warning light appeared. It appears to be a fuel pump failure. The mechanic at Beverly Hills BMW seemed to know upon restarting. I checked with the parts department and they confirmed that some of the "earlier" models sustained fuel pump failures. I have babied this car, and can't recall exceeding 4500 rpms in steptronic mode. This car was specially ordered from Germany and was manufactured during the final week of 2007.
 
Based upon what I've read so far on Edmunds, this appears to be a common problem. Shall I assume that this vehicle came without an oil cooler and insist upon its installation? I leased the car from Glendale BMW, and I already sense some attitude at B H. I certainly don't want to deal with two dealers when only one should be able to replace the defective part, if that's the case. I am driving a rental (at their expense) and am hoping for a repaired vehicle by Friday. What is the likelihood of yet another fuel pump failure without the oil cooler? Is this an issue which must be addressed at BMW North America, or is the originating dealer the one to remedy the problem. My car is at BH, so I have no choice. What leverage do I have to make them install the cooler, and can this be done in a relatively short period of time.
 
Finally, has anyone invoked a "lemon law" based upon the frequency of occurrence and the likelihood of reoccurence?
 
Thank you for your assistance
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Re: re 335 xi 8800 miles fuel pump problem [ursamajor] by shipo
Dec 24, 2008 (7:03 am)
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Replying to: ursamajor (Dec 23, 2008 11:12 pm)

Relax, you're way over thinking this. A few points:
 
1) Given that some early 335i and 335xi models had an issue with the fuel pump, is seems pretty obvious that BMW has revised the design and your car will get the latest version of the truth.
 
2) The RPMs that you've hit during your time with the vehicle is irrelevant relative to the fuel pump failure.
 
3) There is no relationship between the oil cooler (which your car most likely does not have) and the fuel pump failure.
 
4) Why on Earth are you talking Lemon Law at this point? Just get the pump replaced and carry on.
 
Best regards,
Shipo
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Re: re 335 xi 8800 miles fuel pump problem [ursamajor] by roadburner
Dec 24, 2008 (7:20 am)
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Replying to: ursamajor (Dec 23, 2008 11:12 pm)

What Shipo said. The car's getting fixed, the problem has nothing to do with the oil cooler, and on top of it all, you're leasing the sled.
Calm down.
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Re: re 335 xi 8800 miles fuel pump problem [roadburner] by cdnpinhead
Dec 24, 2008 (2:47 pm)
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Replying to: roadburner (Dec 24, 2008 7:20 am)

. . .the problem has nothing to do with the oil cooler, and on top of it all, you're leasing the sled.
 
Damn straight!
 
I'll take this opportunity to wish you and yours a happy holiday season and an even happier 2009.
 
Thanks again for real information and proper perspective over the years.
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Re: 335xi fuel pump failure by ursamajor
Dec 24, 2008 (3:59 pm)
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Dec 24, 2008 2:47 pm)

This is a wonderful time to convey my Holiday wishes to all of the selfless people who comprise Edmunds.com and create the most informative and helpful auto enthusiast community I've encountered.
 
For the record: I was able to pick up my 2008 335xi today, barely 24 hours after limping into Beverly Hills BMW, with a new high-pressure fuel pump. Thanks to Shipo and other posts, I was motivated to share their info with some BMW personnel and sent e-mails to both the originating dealer, Glendale BMW, and BMW North America--Customer Service. I reached the right technical advisor at Glendale BMW (CA) and found out:a)there was a recall of the earlier 3 series for fuel pump replacement; b)my auto was manufactured a bit late to be recalled;c)all of the replacement fuel pumps for the 3 series through 2008 stocked by BMW garages are presently the redesigned or modified versions so that future failure is highly unlikely; they are not permitted to use the older, faulty versions; my car was manufactured in December 2007, at a time when it should have already have had a different version of the fuel pump installed; d)my car has an oil cooler installed and finally: none of the contacts I made was forthright about the recall except Glendale BMW, which also made the lease experience enjoyable and at the time, appeared to have been as good a deal as any nationwde. I would only use the Internet lease department for any vehicle, by the way, as I have negotiated dozens of leases for clients over the years, and there is simply no comparison between the facility and courtesy encountered in Internet departments compared to walk-in salespersons, and of course, the terms are superior, especially when you advise them that you're well equipped to perform your own calcualtions and/or have the proper software.
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Re: 335xi fuel pump failure [ursamajor] by cdnpinhead
Dec 24, 2008 (5:21 pm)
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Replying to: ursamajor (Dec 24, 2008 3:59 pm)

Glad to hear your car is back in fine fettle & that Glendale came through for you. It nearly always comes down to a single person who is: 1) competent and 2) cares.
 
Enjoy that car & have a Merry Christmas!
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Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays by roadburner
Dec 24, 2008 (6:04 pm)
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to all of my fellow enthusiasts who frequent this board! Here's hoping 2009 is a great year for all of us.
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ursamajor by nyccarguy
Dec 24, 2008 (8:18 pm)
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I'm glad your car was fixed & you are well on your way. I've gotta ask: an Xi in Southern California? What's up with that?
 
Merry Christmas & Happy Hanukkah to all the regulars here!
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xi in So. Cal. by ursamajor
Dec 24, 2008 (9:14 pm)
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I know, there are none here; I ordered it. I wanted a certain set of equipment and color, and then thought about:
 
Greater safety in wet weather
I drive to the Sierra to ski every year
 
I value safety and absolutely the best traction on other than dry surfaces, and if I form the perception that it prevents one accident during a three-year lease, I can justify it. Any marginal decrease in performance (speed and acceleration) is for me, miniscule. And I really think it handles better than RWD on for example, hard cornering on uneven roads where loss of traction won't occur as readily with power distributed to all wheels. And I felt if I had the xi, it would encourage me to ski more often, as I'm a workaholic.
 
Best Holiday wishes to you, too!
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Oil separator issue by jetzzs
Dec 29, 2008 (3:09 pm)
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I am very disappointed with the quality of the mechanical components of my 2001 330i. Twice we have replaced the oil pan because the screw sheared off and now the oil separator has malfunctioned. It is out of warranty.
 
I called BMWNA and they said they could not help me and that "problems like this stop here" meaning they would not do anything. Does anyone know if there is anything else I can do? I appreciate any and all suggestions. Thanks so much!

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