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looking at 2000 323ci w/o maintenance history by dterrie
Mar 01, 2008 (12:54 pm)
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This is my first post. I own a 2007 328i Coupe (love it). Way back, owned 1980 528i. The car is for son.
 
I've test-driven a 2000 323ci at a small used-car dealership. It has 97K miles. Steptronic, Sport and Premium, etc. Very clean inside and out. Tires in good shape. Engine smooth and responsive - compared better than expected. Tested alignment highway taking hands off wheel and car tracked straight. Handling on a fast run around highway exit ramp seemed good. However, going over a patch of rough pavement, the bumps felt harsher than I expected. I've checked enough forum posts to be aware of subframe issues, especially with coupes. The salesman says he does not have ownership / maintenance history on the car.
 
He wants $13K. The KBB is $15,140.
 
Should I pursue purchasing this car, if it checks out OK in an inspection?
Is there a way to find out the car's history through the VIN?
If I can't discover it's history, and the subframe, etc. checks out ok, are there still enough unknowns to make purchasing an extended warranty a good idea (not normally a fan of these)?
 
In short, am I taking a big maintenance risk here, or should I be ok, if car checks out?
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Re: looking at 2000 323ci w/o maintenance history [dterrie] by shipo
Mar 01, 2008 (2:22 pm)
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Replying to: dterrie (Mar 01, 2008 12:54 pm)

I gotta tell ya, based upon the huge hue and cry regarding reverse gear failures in the E46 Steptronic 323i (et al.) models, there is absolutely no way I would drive one of those cars with only two pedals under the dash.
 
Were I in your shoes I'd either be looking for a car with a 5-Speed or a 328i/328ci.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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were is the coolant sensor by cobra10
Mar 01, 2008 (4:34 pm)
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hi i have bmw 2002 325i and i get the sensor but i dont not were is it
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Re: looking at 2000 323ci w/o maintenance history [shipo] by dterrie
Mar 01, 2008 (6:31 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (Mar 01, 2008 2:22 pm)

Shipo,
 
Thanks for responding. The dealer is offering a visual and a laser-based inspection of the subframe at least. As for the manual option, my son only knows automatic. My old 1980 528i was a manual and it sure was blast so drop it into 3rd at 60 and floor it on the highway - woohoo as they say.
 
So the 328 did not have the reverse gear failure problem? Any feeling as to how likely this failure is on a car w 97K that's been checked out by a mechanic - any signs he might spot that are a 'tell' for this? Or am I just rolling the dice? Would this make buying an extended maintenance contract a must?
 
Again, thanks.
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Re: looking at 2000 323ci w/o maintenance history [dterrie] by shipo
Mar 01, 2008 (6:45 pm)
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Replying to: dterrie (Mar 01, 2008 6:31 pm)

As I understand it, the 1999 and 2000 328i has a different automatic transmission than the 323i models, and as such, the vast majority of automatic transmission problems seem to be isolated to the cars with the smaller engine. Like I said before, there is absolutely no way I'd have a 323i with an automatic transmission.
 
Were I in your shoes, I'd be teaching my son how to drive a stick or looking for either a 2000 328ci or a 2001 (or later) 325ci (I've not heard of any significant level of problems with either of these).
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: looking at 2000 323ci w/o maintenance history [shipo] by roadburner
Mar 01, 2008 (8:27 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (Mar 01, 2008 6:45 pm)

Were I in your shoes, I'd be teaching my son how to drive a stick
 
My thirteen year old son will learn to drive my Wrangler stick this summer.
Either that or I'll disown him.
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Re: looking at 2000 323ci w/o maintenance history [roadburner] by shipo
Mar 01, 2008 (8:55 pm)
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Replying to: roadburner (Mar 01, 2008 8:27 pm)

My (now) fourteen year old son learned the three-pedal dance last summer when he was thirteen. I'm thinking that's a great age to teach the left foot how to do something useful.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: looking at 2000 323ci w/o maintenance history [dterrie] by gbrostek
Mar 02, 2008 (5:16 am)
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Replying to: dterrie (Mar 01, 2008 12:54 pm)

You MUST find out if teh automatic transmission has ben replaced yet
If no, you are within a year of a $5000 or more problem
Reverse WILL fail on that car, and mine failed at 102,000 miles.
 
Good Luck
 
Gerry
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End of Warranty by kirkr
Mar 05, 2008 (12:09 pm)
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I am getting to the end of the warranty period on my 2006 325xi and, like Shipo, I don't believe in extended warranties. You rarely get your money's worth. I am having it picked up (my dealer does this for free since I live 100 miles away) and having the control arms and bushings checked. Is there anything else I should have them look at while it is in the shop?
 
Thanks for any help.
 
Regards,
Kirk

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