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Re: Oil Consumption - follow up [Mr_Shiftright] by sunilb
Feb 07, 2008 (2:34 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Feb 07, 2008 9:28 am)

I haven't seen any smoke, and I should have clarified... it's not a quart every 850 miles, just this one time (previously the intervals/mileage were longer but it seems to be shortening).
 
I checked under the hood this morning, and everything is clean and the dipstick is reading "full".
 
I'll drop it off tomorrow and ask them to do a leakdown test (and pray that it's nothing serious).... just to be clear-- the leakdown test is to check and see if oil is leaking into the cylinders? If it is, how bad could the problem be (ie, is it fixable at a reasonable cost or am I looking at a very expensive situation)?
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Re: Oil Consumption - follow up [sunilb] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Feb 08, 2008 (9:19 am)
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Replying to: sunilb (Feb 07, 2008 2:34 pm)

cylinder leakdown tests for ANY leakage in the cylinder, whether through the rings or up top through the valves or even through the head gasket.
 
My rule of thumb is that if you carefully monitor oil consumption over the course of a few months and it comes out to 1,500 miles or more per quart, then forget about it, it's just normal wear and tear. A little oil burning is okay. But if it starts to drop regularly, from 1500 to 1250 to 1000, then you have to jump on it and figure out what's wrong.
 
Maybe this was just confusion on reading the stick? Happens to all of us.
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Re: Oil Consumption - follow up [Mr_Shiftright] by sunilb
Feb 08, 2008 (11:57 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Feb 08, 2008 9:19 am)

well, he did the test and there's no leakage anywhere. he also checked the valve cover gasket and oil separator, and these were fine as well.
 
i guess that's good news, but the only thing the mechanic could figure is maybe it's due to colder weather.
 
anyhow, we are going to try a thicker oil (Mobil 1 0-40) and keep monitoring it.
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Re: Oil Consumption - follow up [sunilb] by circlew
Feb 08, 2008 (12:13 pm)
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Replying to: sunilb (Feb 08, 2008 11:57 am)

Cold weather? Never heard that contributed to additioal oils consumption.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Oil Consumption - follow up [circlew] by sunilb
Feb 08, 2008 (3:17 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Feb 08, 2008 12:13 pm)

i know... it's really a stretch, but he said he checked everything and didn't see any leaks anywhere.
 
i'll switch to the heavier oil and then if it's still an issue, go look for a second opinion.
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Re: Oil Consumption - follow up [sunilb] by roadburner
Feb 08, 2008 (3:52 pm)
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Replying to: sunilb (Feb 08, 2008 3:17 pm)

i'll switch to the heavier oil and then if it's still an issue, go look for a second opinion
 
I don't think that the switch to 0W-40 will make a bit of difference. There are only so many places the oil can go, and the mechanic has failed to find the culprit. His suggestion that 0W-40 is the answer tells me he doesn't have a shred of a clue.
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Re: Oil Consumption - follow up [roadburner] by cdnpinhead
Feb 08, 2008 (6:47 pm)
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Replying to: roadburner (Feb 08, 2008 3:52 pm)

". . .a shred of a clue."
 
This is what is lacking, nearly always, when I want my vehicle fixed. I can f*** (let's say foul) it up myself for free. If I pay the man, I expect him (or her) to know more than I do & to fix the thing more quickly. For this, I pay them.
 
Well. . .
 
I have any number of things that aren't right on my daily driver (and in my house) that I'd dearly love to let a competent (that's C O M P E T E N T) technician deal with. My car is rare (that's in, they discontinued it), so not many technicians will have ever seen one before. My bad. I won't do it again.
 
The fact remains that a competent mechanic is worth his/her weight in gold. A $793 repair diagnosed (yeah, right) by the Nissan dealership becomes an $87 fix at the (trusted) shop.
 
Works for me. If I end up with a BMW, it won't be before I determine which independent shops nearby are deemed worthy. Since BMW has been around awhile, such databases actually exist.
 
YMMV.
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Re: Oil Consumption - follow up [roadburner] by sunilb
Feb 08, 2008 (11:31 pm)
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Replying to: roadburner (Feb 08, 2008 3:52 pm)

okay, i'm actually not trying to defend this mechanic (they've treated me fairly in the past)... the heavier wt oil was my idea.
 
for better or worse, I did a lot of searching on other forums and only found the following possible culprits for excessive oil consumption: valve cover gasket, valve seals, and oil separator.
 
I also found that some people (with higher mileage cars) have switched to this heavier oil and it has slowed the consumption.
 
So, based on this and the suggestion for the leak-down test, I asked my mechanic to do this test and check all of these things as well as anything else he could think of.
 
When he came back with nothing, I asked him to go with the heavier oil. I figure at the least, it may work (it may not... but, you know what they say about what you read on the internet!).
 
I'll keep you informed. (for the record, I'm at 85,020 miles and dipstick is reading at the full mark).
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Re: Oil Consumption - follow up [sunilb] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Feb 09, 2008 (11:03 am)
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Replying to: sunilb (Feb 08, 2008 11:31 pm)

So the oil separator (a $75 German PCV valve) was replaced and the engine was checked for excessive crankcase pressure?
 
This cranky (no pun intended) oil separator is a known BMW issue.
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Buzzing Sound by idoc2
Feb 10, 2008 (8:37 am)
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I drive a 2007 328xi and recently noticed a buzzing or whirring sound similar to that of a small electric motor coming from the passenger side rear quarter. It is only audible outside the car and after the ignition has been turned off. It lasts for about 2 or 3 minutes. Does anyone have any idea as to what this may be?
 
IDOC

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