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#2924 of 2955 Re: Got the Vibe! [pilgrimjs] by jfritsch Jun 15, 2009 (8:10 am)
Replying to: pilgrimjs (May 30, 2009 1:10 pm) Vibe shouldn't really be that bad in the depreciation dept. GM is govt motors now. If really worried get quotes from many dealers for a Toyota matrix.   The "drive the thing into the ground" thing is really old school, especially if you are financing for 5 years. One really should try to expend as much as one can for 3 year loan. Obviouslly a 72 month loan, (unless a great otherwise unobtainable benefit) is moot.   Purchase the car properly, so one's 1st year depreciation for the avg car in this range is around $4000 or so (from previous years kbb trade in) and buy new cars every 5 years or 7 years, especially with cash or good credit. Nice new cars with new safety and convenience features, much of the ownership under warranty, especially if you can buy a factory 7/100kmi factory extended warranty for the $800 range or so. Not $2000 in the finance office. (shop around at dealerships)   The obsessive compulsive bit trying to squeeze the last few micro-ounces from the tube, hanging your dental floss on the shower rod to reuse, and squeezing the last 3 years out of a 10 or 13 year ownership is a loser, possibly putting 3000 or more in different repairs, or one big "clunk" at 130000 miles, learning that you sadly won't be driving your Toyota absolutely trouble free for 200000 miles like your wife's friend's Ex's cousin Milty did. You also get to drive a piece of crap an extra 3 years. I believe the average 35 year old has a 1 in 270 chance of not being with us in 3 years.   If you use it as a 3rd car beater to have around and junk when significant trouble arises that may be a winner. I guess if you have 3 dui's and your rates are through the roof would be a factor for holding onto an old car also.   Good luck --jjf
#2925 of 2955 Re: 05 Vibe or 04 Civic? [pilgrimjs] by stephenhammer Jul 17, 2009 (11:46 pm)
Replying to: pilgrimjs (May 17, 2009 4:33 pm) Drove it over unplowed Narbona Pass on Navajo Reservation, when four wheel drive trucks made it over the AWD 2009 Pontiac Vibe did well with all season winter rate tires. All passed vehicles going over the snow covered rim going down to Phoenix. Noted and Toyota Matrix, felt it was two wheel drive of to the side of the snow covered road.   Slept in it with front passenger seat folded down it can even fit eight foot timbers. In remote areas OnStar will work off satellite where cell phones will not. Can buy minutes for voice activated internal cell. GM dealers are found in rural areas. If you are a cross country skier in remote areas as apposed to a downhill skied it is better to have an AWD Vibe than an AWD Subaru. Note I use a Nokian (made in Finland) all season with a symbol of a snowflake/mountain which shows a winter rating a tire.
#2926 of 2955 What will happen by laserblue Jul 20, 2009 (4:25 am)
If I understood what's going on with G.M., the last year of the Pontiac Vibe will be the 2009 model (including all Pontiac models).   If I buy a 2009 Vibe and Pontiac doesn't build it anymore and I need a body or mechanical part, what will happen over the years?   Will I be stuck with a car with no replacement parts?   I always keep my cars 5 to 7 years before trading them.     What else should I buy that equals the Vibe.   I'm not interested in the Toyota Matrix. I want to stay with G.M. because i've been with G.M. since 1977. Replies to this message: stephenhammer (Jul 20, 2009 4:51 am) maxx4me (Jul 20, 2009 4:01 pm)
#2927 of 2955 Re: What will happen [laserblue] by stephenhammer Jul 20, 2009 (4:51 am)
Replying to: laserblue (Jul 20, 2009 4:25 am) Mechanically the Matrix is the same and Toyota should go on producing alot of the mechanical parts, and GM could most likely still get them from them. On my AWD the body parts are to me the same as any 2009 vibe and I would guest 2010 are not much different, so there will be parts avaialble even if they are through GM. After all GM at first production of the 2009 Vibe was considered the largest company. Dealers still support the warranty 5 year 100,000 miles the best in the business.
#2928 of 2955 Re: What will happen [laserblue] by maxx4me Jul 20, 2009 (4:01 pm)
Replying to: laserblue (Jul 20, 2009 4:25 am) yep, no worries; drive with confidence. The Vibe is a Matrix which is a Corolla. Toyota is destined to stop production of the Corolla in the year 2242. You'll have parts for a long time. If you get an AWD version, it is the Rav 4's AWD system. If you need body panels, you'll have to do the junk yard thing after a while, but that will be a long while. The 2010 model is the last year, and I for one (owning two Vibes right now) plan on buying a 2010 used model in the near future.
#2929 of 2955 Re: Pontiac Line in face of GM troubles [venn] by bfamily Jul 22, 2009 (3:54 am)
Replying to: venn (Apr 30, 2009 7:56 pm) I work for a GM Tier-1 supplier and we are contractually obligated to maintain a supply of service parts for 15 years after the vehicle stops production. Even if we go bankrupt GM owns the tools that make the parts so they can start-up a new supplier. No worries.
#2930 of 2955 Need help by laserblue Jul 23, 2009 (5:47 pm)
I went to my dealer tonight and saw two 2009 Vibes.   One with a 1.8 L. engine 132 h/p with 4 speed automatic transmission and one with a 2.4 L. engine 158 h/p with 5 speed automatic transmission with manual mode. What bothers me is that manual mode thing. What is it and really and how does it work? Is it really good or useful? If I decide on the automatic with manual mode can I only drive it like an ordinary automatic transmission? Replies to this message: houstonmi (Jul 23, 2009 8:15 pm) laserblue (Jul 24, 2009 3:40 am) houstonmi (Jul 24, 2009 7:59 am)
#2931 of 2955 Looked at 1.8L Manual and AWD by stephenhammer Jul 23, 2009 (7:51 pm)
The two vehicles I was interested in are the 1.8 L Manual and the 2.4 L four speed AWD.   Since 1974 I have been driving manuals. So I considered the base 1.8 L manual, it would have as much power an speed if shifted properly as my 2.4 L AWD, but and would get far better fuel economy.   But I wanted to use it on snow for cross country skiing, and on gravel for the Navajo Nation, and also to sleep in at a trail head. The base model front passenger seat did not fold flat. Reading information from others the AWD would be better with a five speed auto, but someone came out with info the AWD may not have been able to fit the five speed auto.   Have tested the ABS (Automotive Braking System) it worked smoothly, the electronic steering adjustment system has work both on gravel and snow, and the AWD kicks in automatically something unique to smaller vehicle. The 2 wheel drive Vibe/Matrix is compared with a AWD Subaru in April 2009 Consumer reports. Though in the past when a Toyota is sister to a GM vehicle the Toyota is preferred, but in Consumer Reports it is the Vibe people are happier with over the Matrix.   I hope this helps.
#2932 of 2955 Re: Need help [laserblue] by houstonmi Jul 23, 2009 (8:15 pm)
Replying to: laserblue (Jul 23, 2009 5:47 pm) Yes. I have a 2009 2.4 automatic and that's the way I drive. The slap-shift or whatever it's called is there if you want to use it, but you don't have to touch it at all if you don't want to. I love this Vibe, by the way. Replies to this message: laserblue (Jul 24, 2009 3:40 am) houstonmi (Jul 24, 2009 7:59 am)
#2933 of 2955 Re: Need help [houstonmi] by laserblue Jul 24, 2009 (3:40 am)
Replying to: houstonmi (Jul 23, 2009 8:15 pm) Thank you for your reply "houstonmi" I appreciate it.   I was more interested in the 2.4 L. than the 1.8 L. being afraid that it wouldn't be powerful enough. Since you told me that I could drive it like a regular automatic transmission it will probably be a 2.4 L.   Thanks again. Replies to this message: houstonmi (Jul 24, 2009 7:59 am)

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