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First, I agree FOR THE $ the Trooper is a damn good vehicle, that's just it, no more nor less. It's not a super vehicle, it's a compromise vehicle. Other than that, I can't agree with you anything else. A friend of mines owned a Rodeo with 60k mi., she sweared she wouldn't buy another Isuzu, so she doesn't promote them as such. In fact, she bought a 4Runner and wished me good luck with my Trooper! I don't think you know how to read a financial statement, because if no one buys a Nissan, then it would no longer exist; thus you'd have no statement? Besides, you don't know what the hell you're talking about! You said "Everywhere else in the world, it is just Nissan", and as I've seen Nissan in US too; therefore, Nissan vehicles are sold all over the world! |
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I was talking about Nissan as a company. No other auto-manufacturer sees it as being profitable, that is why no one has bought it yet (it's been on the market for a few years). Nissan = Infinity... For example outside the US, you have Nissan Pathfinders, no Infinity QX4s. If you want a QX4 outside the US, you buy the top of the line pathfinder. I love nissans personally as a car manufacturer, I just don't feel you get as much bang for your buck in their trucks. I would love a skyline GTR, and the 90-93ish Maximas were awsome. -mike |
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I owned an 88 Pathfinder; it was an awsome vehicle that had next to nothing go wrong with it in 162K miles. However, the new Pathfinder is very different, most notably the unibody design. I'm not crazy about the long-term viability of unibodies here in the rust belt. Body-on-frame makes it much easier to replace rusty body panels. The Nissan engine is derived from the old 300ZX engine, as was the old 3.0 in my 88. It has a very good reputation - I know mine never burned a drop of oil. The torque numbers are not as impressive as the horsepower might indicate, that is why it isn't as quick 0 - 60 as you might think. The Pathfinder has always been a solid vehicle, but for the respective prices you will pay, Trooper is a better value, IMO. |
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| I have been real close to jumping on Trooper model but have been considering other models, especially new Isuzu Axiom. Found a review with lots of pics on www.suv.com and I love this vehicle, gotta have it. | |
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| I thought Nissan's 3.3L engine, or the 3.0L it grew out of (is this correct?) was widely known to have a very serious problem that was quite common - head gasket seems to stick in my head. Is there no real truth to this claim? My understanding also is that the new 3.5L 6 in Pathfinder is not related much, if any, to the previous 3.3L (which is still in the Xterra). | |
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The trooper is not a compromise vehicle. I think it really depends on what you are looking to get. The pathfinder is nice, I looked at Durango's, Jeeps (both Cherokee and JGC), 4runner and RX300, when I was shopping. Price is an important factor in buying any vehicle. The standard feature list of the trooper is much better than any of the others listed above, and there is a lot more room. The pathfinder and 4 runner, SUV's on pickup truck frame, very small inside. The Durango, well, it just wasn't what I was looking for. The RX300 offered no real off-road capability. I have a Nissan altima, I have had no better a time with their dealerships than isuzu's, maybe even worse. I was able to find a good isuzu dealer after some looking. It is not a super-truck, but it is pretty good, and has great offroad. ability (much better than many others). I am one of those people looking to augment my suspension (new OME shocks), not because the stock are bad, but because it is a fun project and will improve offroad. handling. And to that end, everyone in my family preferred the offroad. ride in the trooper compared to my brothers expedition? Still it is not a topic to lose one's cool over. I suggest you trade your trooper in for a pathfinder, Nissan has been on the financial ropes lately (check your facts) and they are offering similar deep cuts into sale prices. You can get a new pathfinder at similar deals to the trooper. |
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You may be right about the 3.5, I'm not sure of it's heritage. I have not heard of head gasket problems on the Nissan 3.0 - 3.3, perhaps you are thinking of Toyota. They had a ton of head gaskets go out on FourRunners. |
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on the maximas and nissans in general. But they are still good cars. Just not as much value as the current actual selling prices of the Troopers and Rodeos. Heck the X-terra is still selling  or near MSRP IIRC. -mike |
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Yah right! Keep lying yourselves and dreaming your proposed Trooper, while watching Isuzu dumping its best model and launching the new Axiom! |
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| The trooper is a rugged, no compromise, go anywhere vehicle. The best deal on the planet that I know of for what I want. An SUV with lots of cargo space, back seat legroom, 215 hp, offroad capability that is awesome, and durability. I have had no problems with my '99 and plan to run it for 100,000+. I'll see the exploders in the junk yard by then. | |
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