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#52 of 271 Bluedevils by ilit Jan 30, 2001 (10:54 am)
I still love my Trooper. I think I'm even luckier than you. Mine doesn't burn oil. Only 1 thing I don't like it at all, it can't handle wind due to the boxy shape.   I'm so bothered by those Trooper worshipper. They make Troopers sounds like Super SUVs, while complaint about gearbox whining, clinking, body swaying rolling, no roof rack, no 3rd seat, on and on! Such idiots (very few acting like Mr know-it-all teenager always have to answer everyone's questions immediately although they've never experienced the problems) buy inexpensive but good SUV then want to turn it into a Lexus 470 (have you ever seen all their wishes for a perfect Trooper!)   So, my only intention was to tell potential buyers like Bob truthful opinions, and let them make their own decisions.
#53 of 271 Blue is corret by ilit Jan 30, 2001 (11:41 am)
Really! Trooper 3.5l is just slightly larger than 3.2l and 3.2l had leaky valve/cover seals (but still reliable/durable ?!); then, Pathfinder must be superior because its 3.5l is even very slightly larger than its predecessor 3.3l which didn't have as many problems as 3.2l Trooper engine!   Wow, hat off Mr. know-it-all for your knowledge. Nissan has no future when it allies with Infiniti that markets luxury cars equipped with Nissan engines??? While Isuzu with bright future sold to GM, and its brands such as Rodeo and Trooper sold to Honda that kept the SLX (or Trooper) only 2 years! Anyway, I wonder how many Nissans moving on the road comparing to Isuzus! Please, don't go on streets to count then ... recount!!!
#54 of 271 FYI by paisan HOST Jan 30, 2001 (12:05 pm)
Infinity is only sold in the US. Everywhere else in the world, it is just Nissan. They segmented it for the US market. And if you don't read financial papers, no one wants to buy nissan... Those are facts.   For the $ the Trooper is a damn good vehicle. My '97 Rodeo went 120,000 miles on oil changes ever 3K miles, and no other work (other than 2 sets of brake pads and 1 set of tires) IMHO that's damn good. And I will promote them as such. Yep, they aren't the be-all-end all of vehicles, but for the $ they are damn good.   -mike
#55 of 271 No one wants to buy a Nissan by ilit Jan 30, 2001 (1:02 pm)
First, I agree FOR THE $ the Trooper is a damn good vehicle, that's just it, no more nor less. It's not a super vehicle, it's a compromise vehicle.   Other than that, I can't agree with you anything else.   A friend of mines owned a Rodeo with 60k mi., she sweared she wouldn't buy another Isuzu, so she doesn't promote them as such. In fact, she bought a 4Runner and wished me good luck with my Trooper!   I don't think you know how to read a financial statement, because if no one buys a Nissan, then it would no longer exist; thus you'd have no statement?   Besides, you don't know what the hell you're talking about! You said "Everywhere else in the world, it is just Nissan", and as I've seen Nissan in US too; therefore, Nissan vehicles are sold all over the world!
#56 of 271 Mis-understanding... by paisan HOST Jan 30, 2001 (1:34 pm)
I was talking about Nissan as a company. No other auto-manufacturer sees it as being profitable, that is why no one has bought it yet (it's been on the market for a few years).   Nissan = Infinity...   For example outside the US, you have Nissan Pathfinders, no Infinity QX4s. If you want a QX4 outside the US, you buy the top of the line pathfinder.   I love nissans personally as a car manufacturer, I just don't feel you get as much bang for your buck in their trucks. I would love a skyline GTR, and the 90-93ish Maximas were awsome.   -mike
#57 of 271 Pathfinders by sdc2 Jan 30, 2001 (2:29 pm)
I owned an 88 Pathfinder; it was an awsome vehicle that had next to nothing go wrong with it in 162K miles. However, the new Pathfinder is very different, most notably the unibody design. I'm not crazy about the long-term viability of unibodies here in the rust belt. Body-on-frame makes it much easier to replace rusty body panels.   The Nissan engine is derived from the old 300ZX engine, as was the old 3.0 in my 88. It has a very good reputation - I know mine never burned a drop of oil.   The torque numbers are not as impressive as the horsepower might indicate, that is why it isn't as quick 0 - 60 as you might think.   The Pathfinder has always been a solid vehicle, but for the respective prices you will pay, Trooper is a better value, IMO.
#58 of 271 Axiom by baddestbob1 Jan 30, 2001 (4:59 pm)
I have been real close to jumping on Trooper model but have been considering other models, especially new Isuzu Axiom. Found a review with lots of pics on www.suv.com and I love this vehicle, gotta have it.
#59 of 271 Nissan's 3.3L engine by bluedevils Jan 31, 2001 (5:45 am)
I thought Nissan's 3.3L engine, or the 3.0L it grew out of (is this correct?) was widely known to have a very serious problem that was quite common - head gasket seems to stick in my head. Is there no real truth to this claim? My understanding also is that the new 3.5L 6 in Pathfinder is not related much, if any, to the previous 3.3L (which is still in the Xterra).
#60 of 271 re: pathfinder by sbcooke Jan 31, 2001 (9:58 am)
The trooper is not a compromise vehicle. I think it really depends on what you are looking to get. The pathfinder is nice, I looked at Durango's, Jeeps (both Cherokee and JGC), 4runner and RX300, when I was shopping. Price is an important factor in buying any vehicle. The standard feature list of the trooper is much better than any of the others listed above, and there is a lot more room. The pathfinder and 4 runner, SUV's on pickup truck frame, very small inside. The Durango, well, it just wasn't what I was looking for. The RX300 offered no real off-road capability.   I have a Nissan altima, I have had no better a time with their dealerships than isuzu's, maybe even worse. I was able to find a good isuzu dealer after some looking.   It is not a super-truck, but it is pretty good, and has great offroad. ability (much better than many others). I am one of those people looking to augment my suspension (new OME shocks), not because the stock are bad, but because it is a fun project and will improve offroad. handling. And to that end, everyone in my family preferred the offroad. ride in the trooper compared to my brothers expedition? Still it is not a topic to lose one's cool over. I suggest you trade your trooper in for a pathfinder, Nissan has been on the financial ropes lately (check your facts) and they are offering similar deep cuts into sale prices. You can get a new pathfinder at similar deals to the trooper.
#61 of 271 Nissan engines by sdc2 Jan 31, 2001 (4:01 pm)
You may be right about the 3.5, I'm not sure of it's heritage.   I have not heard of head gasket problems on the Nissan 3.0 - 3.3, perhaps you are thinking of Toyota. They had a ton of head gaskets go out on FourRunners.

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