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| Sometime longer warranty doesn't matter much, such as Hundai that has 10yr/100k mi. also. Are Hundai super cars like Troopers described here at this Web site? I think it's extremely bothersome for gearbox whinning, clinking, engine drinks 1 quart of oil every 1000mi (but it's OK), bouncing and swaying (unless replacing with new shocks or sway bars)for 10 yr/ 100k mi.! | |
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The items you mentioned are certainly annoying to some Trooper owners. Others don't even notice these things. Others are lucky enough that their Troopers don't have certain "problems" (e.g. mine doesn't have the gearbox whine). I would say that all of these problems have no bearing on the reliability/durability of the vehicle over the long term. For me, the Trooper rides just fine on the stock shocks, even at 40k miles in my 1998 Trooper. I guess I don't know what I'm missing by not having aftermarket shocks and/or sway bars & bushings. I don't have the gearbox whine. I don't have any squeaks/rattles/clunks/etc. (a couple rattles have disappeared finally). My engine consumes a quart of oil every 2,000 miles or so. Based on what I've heard from Isuzu, a master Isuzu mechanic, and many other owners, there is no cause for concern if oil consumption is up to a quart every 1,000 miles. Does it mean I have to check my oil more often and occasionally add a quart? Yes. Does it bother me? No. My truck is solid and reliable. As for the Trooper 3.5L V6, it's based on the 3.2L 6 that has existed on Trooper since the 1992 model year. That engine has a couple trouble areas (leaky valve covers/seals) but is otherwise very durable and reliable. I have nothing bad to say about the Pathfinder's 3.5L 6. Its specs look impressive, though I saw one review that indicated the truck isn't as fast as the numbers would imply. Actually, I thought the manual transmission-equipped Pathfinder has 250hp, vs. 240hp for the automatic. |
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The 3.5l in the Trooper is a slightly larger version of the 3.2l Also the trooper recieved an excellent repair rating from Consumer reports. I'm not sure what the rating of the pathfinder was. I'd also be wondering a little bit about a company that none of the major car manufacturers would even buy (Nissan) and a company who's future is unknown. At the very least 1/2 of Isuzu is owned by GM. The 6.6l Duramax engine in the new GM pickups is 100% Isuzu, and the upcoming generation of S10/S15/Hombre pickups is being designed and built by Isuzu. -mike |
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I still love my Trooper. I think I'm even luckier than you. Mine doesn't burn oil. Only 1 thing I don't like it at all, it can't handle wind due to the boxy shape. I'm so bothered by those Trooper worshipper. They make Troopers sounds like Super SUVs, while complaint about gearbox whining, clinking, body swaying rolling, no roof rack, no 3rd seat, on and on! Such idiots (very few acting like Mr know-it-all teenager always have to answer everyone's questions immediately although they've never experienced the problems) buy inexpensive but good SUV then want to turn it into a Lexus 470 (have you ever seen all their wishes for a perfect Trooper!) So, my only intention was to tell potential buyers like Bob truthful opinions, and let them make their own decisions. |
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Really! Trooper 3.5l is just slightly larger than 3.2l and 3.2l had leaky valve/cover seals (but still reliable/durable ?!); then, Pathfinder must be superior because its 3.5l is even very slightly larger than its predecessor 3.3l which didn't have as many problems as 3.2l Trooper engine! Wow, hat off Mr. know-it-all for your knowledge. Nissan has no future when it allies with Infiniti that markets luxury cars equipped with Nissan engines??? While Isuzu with bright future sold to GM, and its brands such as Rodeo and Trooper sold to Honda that kept the SLX (or Trooper) only 2 years! Anyway, I wonder how many Nissans moving on the road comparing to Isuzus! Please, don't go on streets to count then ... recount!!! |
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Infinity is only sold in the US. Everywhere else in the world, it is just Nissan. They segmented it for the US market. And if you don't read financial papers, no one wants to buy nissan... Those are facts. For the $ the Trooper is a damn good vehicle. My '97 Rodeo went 120,000 miles on oil changes ever 3K miles, and no other work (other than 2 sets of brake pads and 1 set of tires) IMHO that's damn good. And I will promote them as such. Yep, they aren't the be-all-end all of vehicles, but for the $ they are damn good. -mike |
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First, I agree FOR THE $ the Trooper is a damn good vehicle, that's just it, no more nor less. It's not a super vehicle, it's a compromise vehicle. Other than that, I can't agree with you anything else. A friend of mines owned a Rodeo with 60k mi., she sweared she wouldn't buy another Isuzu, so she doesn't promote them as such. In fact, she bought a 4Runner and wished me good luck with my Trooper! I don't think you know how to read a financial statement, because if no one buys a Nissan, then it would no longer exist; thus you'd have no statement? Besides, you don't know what the hell you're talking about! You said "Everywhere else in the world, it is just Nissan", and as I've seen Nissan in US too; therefore, Nissan vehicles are sold all over the world! |
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I was talking about Nissan as a company. No other auto-manufacturer sees it as being profitable, that is why no one has bought it yet (it's been on the market for a few years). Nissan = Infinity... For example outside the US, you have Nissan Pathfinders, no Infinity QX4s. If you want a QX4 outside the US, you buy the top of the line pathfinder. I love nissans personally as a car manufacturer, I just don't feel you get as much bang for your buck in their trucks. I would love a skyline GTR, and the 90-93ish Maximas were awsome. -mike |
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I owned an 88 Pathfinder; it was an awsome vehicle that had next to nothing go wrong with it in 162K miles. However, the new Pathfinder is very different, most notably the unibody design. I'm not crazy about the long-term viability of unibodies here in the rust belt. Body-on-frame makes it much easier to replace rusty body panels. The Nissan engine is derived from the old 300ZX engine, as was the old 3.0 in my 88. It has a very good reputation - I know mine never burned a drop of oil. The torque numbers are not as impressive as the horsepower might indicate, that is why it isn't as quick 0 - 60 as you might think. The Pathfinder has always been a solid vehicle, but for the respective prices you will pay, Trooper is a better value, IMO. |
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| I have been real close to jumping on Trooper model but have been considering other models, especially new Isuzu Axiom. Found a review with lots of pics on www.suv.com and I love this vehicle, gotta have it. | |
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