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| Laura - Look in Friday's or Saturday's new car ads for the Crest Isuzu ad. They will usually feature oneTrooper vehicle id# at a "special" price for a limited time only. Compare that price to the best price you have computed from your sources( invoice+destination+dealer profit - holdback - customer incentive) and then decide whether you want the 0% financing or any dealer incentive available. If the advertised price looks good go in and talk to them. I now live in North Carolina but travel to Dallas occasionally. Crest has consistently had very good prices compared to other ads I have seen in several cities. I think the 4WD with the TOD is a much better vehicle than the 2WD and worth the extra money. | |
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I think the low financing may be possible because these trucks are built in Japan, and Isuzu is based in Japan. Interest rates are ~very~ low in Japan (the prime rate used to hover just above 0). I have no idea how much an anniversary edition should be. But I am almost sure that the dealer gets an incentive from the manuf. separate from the choice that the customer gets. So for S and LS models, buyers should be looking at $1000 or so off of invoice. Fred |
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I'm shopping for a 2001 Rodeo LS 4WD 4-auto in the Kansas City area. With the options I want the factory invoice price is $26642. Info on this site indicates the dealer gets a $1500 incentive for this vehicle. The dealers I've talked to so far tell me that if you take the 0% financing, they don't get this incentive. Is this true? Or are they feeding me a story so they can pocket the $1500? Are there any other dealer kickbacks I should know about (besides the the $1500 and the 3% MSRP holdback)? Any feedback on the lowest prices you have seen on this model or what you think a fair price would be is appreciated. Once again, I'm looking at the 2001 Rodeo LS 4WD 4-auto w/ Value Pkg, Appearance Pkg, 16" aluminum wheels, color-keyed body molding, and cargo tray. Thanks! |
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18 months ago when I was considering a new 1999 Trooper purchase, I wanted to find out "for sure" whether the dealers were truthful when they said you could get either the manufacturer-sponsored low APR financing OR the manufacturer-sponsored rebate incentives, but not both. The folks at Isuzu's 800#, like most manufacturers, will not provide this sort of information. It's hard to believe why manufacturers don't feel that should be a part of their obligation to inform the customer, but they always refer you to the dealers. Well dealers are often clueless and/or unscrupulous, so getting an answer from a dealer does not make me feel informed. I was able to get ahold of the manager of Isuzu's midwest operations, a nice guy in Chicago. He confirmed with me over the phone (he returned my message, actually) that you cannot have both. I'm sure that this is still the case with Isuzus; no reason to think it would have changed since then. |
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| I confirm Bluedevil's comments. A dealer last November showed me the instruction sheet from Isuzu. It clearly said either/or, but not both. | |
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I need some advice as to whether this is a good deal or not. I would appreciate any input. I've just put a refundable deposit down on a 2000 Rodeo LS 4wd demo with the Ironman package from a dealer with 5,512 miles on it. In addition to the Ironman edition package, it has the audio upgrade w/ 6-CD changer, power moonroof, cargo mat, 16" Aluminum Wheels/Locks, and Tube side steps. According to my calculations, including freight, the subtotal on the invoice including options is $26,543. If you add the other dealer costs on the invoice faxed to me of $418 for the advertising fund, and $301 for something designated as the "floor plan," the total invoice is $27,262, not including the holdback. Also, leather seats were placed for a customer who subsequently did not get approved for financing. They tell me that the installation of the leather seats and door trim cost $1400. They probably paid around $1200. So including the cost of the leather, the true dealer cost would be $28,462. Now it's hard to get true figures for a brand new 2000 model, since you can't really use edmunds used car figures, as this car has never been titled, as it is a demo, but the figures I used for the price of the options was from an invoice that was faxed to me that included the dealer cost column on a similar Ironman Rodeo. So as far as I can tell the true dealer cost is $28,462 with the holdback subtracted, but I was able to talk them to letting me have it for $28,100 plus a $200 "dealer prep" charge, while still allowing me to use the 0% financing. Am I missing something here? Did I miscalculate their cost? Should I have been able to negotiate cheaper? Even though it seems like it's within their dealer cost, it seems steep for a Rodeo LS even with these options, but the Ironman package is exceedingly more difficult to find anymore, and I feel pretty lucky to have found this one in the black color I wanted. So should I get it? Any input would be appreciated. |
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I have a 1998 Rodeo LS loaded. IN 1998!!! My leather seats surfacing cost $995, moon roof $ 700, and I don't see anywhere on my information about 'floor plan' or 'advertising costs' the only thing that I can see is a 'Destination and Handling" charge of $445. The aluminum allow wheels are standard equipment I don't know what the Ironman package is, but the total vehicle cost was $31,480 and I paid $28,000 out the door for my SUV fresh off the truck. I also got limited slip differential for $250 and California Emissions cost of $180 in that price. I hope this was helpful?? |
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Thanks for the reply. That was my other consideratin is that I could probably get the top of the line trim level, now the LSE for close to the same price, but I really like the looks of the Ironman Package, which includes Titan Gray overfenders, bumpers, and side moldings, hybrid tire cover face, aeroroof rack crossbars, and intelligent suspension control, and iron man graphics/floormats. It's a $1052 option (dealer cost $894). They only made a very limited amount of these to commemorate their sponsorship of the ironman events, and that's why they're not available anymore. And after calling about 20 dealers, I've only been able to find 2, one white and one black. The only thing I'm missing from getting an LSE is the wood grain trim. The advertising fund is what the dealer has to pay the factory for each car to help cover costs of national advertising, and the "floor plan" is what the dealer pays each month to keep the car on the lot. It's basically the interest they have to pay for the car. That's what the holdback is about. It covers this cost for the dealer for 3 months, and that's why after 3 months, the profit from the holdback is usually "used up." Does anyone figure these into the dealer cost invoice, or is that just considered the cost of doing business, and not included in the invoice price you negotiate from? Anyone get any better deals on an ironman Rodeo? |
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| I just bought a new2001 Trooper(black)LS. I got it for $200 over invoice and the 0% finacing for 5 years. I'm very happy to get back into a Trooper, its been a long time since I bought a 1984 Trooper when they first came out. Look forward to getting some good advice as I run into problems. I have already ordered some Rancho 9000 shocks to help the handling. | |
| Welcome to the trooper group. That sounds like a great deal. I really like the looks of the black trooper. I have a black '99 trooper S. Is the LS in black a solid color or have two tone paint? | |
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