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2024 messages, Last post on Jul 14, 2009 at 9:02 PM
You are in the Isuzu Trooper Forum.What is this discussion about? Isuzu, SUV
Your Community Leader is paisan.
#837 of 2024 Manual Hubs by central
Jun 01, 2001 (8:09 pm)
Having did my own Superwinch install, and not being a wrench-head, it would seem to me that any decent shop could EASILY do this install. That being said someone on another site recently had such an install done and reported some oil or grease seepage from the new hub. Suggestions ranged from the shop having messed up the Superwinch gaskets, to not using RTV, to too much oil added during the install (a few drops should do it). Maybe the job is almost too easy and a beginning mechanic got assigned the work and botched something.
As a DIY project my suggestions are to refer to the writeup at http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/isuzu/. Also, make sure you don't lose the shims. They tend to stick to the hub, at least on my 1999 Trooper, until you go looking for them. In addition make sure you have the proper allen wrenches for the job. I also did not pound off the hub bolts as suggested. Instead I added a piece of pipe to my metric allen wrench for extra leverage. This seemed a better approach to me but then again like I said I am no mechanic.
For what it is worth, I probably would have purchased the premium Warn hubs had I know they were available at the time. However, since doing the install and reading about the pros and cons of premium Warn (not the basic level product) and Superwinch I think I would stay with Superwinches as they seem to be just as reliable and cheaper. Seemingly the hardcore offroaders would go with rebuilt AISIN hubs due to their supposed superior strength.
Depending on your mileage, you may also want to grease your front wheel bearing as part of the hub job as your will be 1/2 way there.
#838 of 2024 RE: Hidden Hitch Install, Harder than I hoped it would be by crunchy
Jun 01, 2001 (11:35 pm)
I, too just installed a Hidden Hitch. I'll do a full write up, with pictures, very soon, but let me just say that HH has a long way to go in the customer support area. First, the hitch was shipped in a box with no packing materials -- just the box. Next, the instructions were incorrect about (1) what needs to be removed from the truck (2001 Trooper), and (2) which bolts go where. I had to go look at someone else's trooper that has a HH on it to see how it was supposed to go. Stock holes on the frame were 3 on the right and 2 on the left. I had 2 bolts left over, but I figured they were extra. I didn't drill any holes in my frame.All in all, what should have been a very simple job (how hard can it be to screw 5 bolts into 5 pre-drilled holes?) was a big PITA.
Anyway, I'm going to do a write up with correct instructions and pictures in case anybody else might want to use it as a reference.
-Sue
#839 of 2024 hmmm by paisan
Jun 02, 2001 (12:29 am)
that's weird. 10 min for Conman, 30 min for me, no drilling...I wonder if we all got the same part #s?
-mike
#840 of 2024 HH Quality??????? by dchopp
Jun 02, 2001 (9:06 am)
I was going to install a HH on my Rodeo but what I have read here, it lookes like I will install another brand. It sounds like HH customer service need a few phone calls about there quality.DCH
#841 of 2024 re: Hitch installs by sbcooke
Jun 02, 2001 (12:48 pm)
I would drill the holes in the frame and attach the extra bolts. The hitch is rated for a certain amount, now you are only planning on towing 2500 lbs, but 5 years from now you have to move something that is 4500 lbs? Who knows how the hitch will perform under stress and after a long period of time.When I added my Bull Bar I had a similar experience, i.e. the parts were not all right and I had to buy new bolts, etc. I bought all grade 8 bolts. Drilling into the frame put me off at first, but I did it and it was easier and better than I thought. A 3/8" bit which is about 9.x mm, was perfect, and the 10 mm bolts went in easily with a ratchet. I would also review what grade bolts they gave you, anything less than Grade 5 might not hold up under stress. Most Metric Steel are Grade 8.8 or something like that, out of the box.
I also sprayed all the bolts after they were in with rustoleum. I didn't want any rust problems later.
#842 of 2024 hidden hitch 87544 by gpm5
Jun 02, 2001 (2:38 pm)
Mine went on very easily, in about an hour by myself but that included cleaning the weld nuts in the frame and taking my time. The directions seemed clear to me, although they show only one bolt on the left when there are two. You do have to get under the truck and make sure which bolts thread in where first. My sequoia hitch has three bolts on each side and can tow 6500 lbs. The two bolts on the left on the trooper are quite large (12 mm rated at grade 8.8 and use 64 ft lbs of torque) and I don't think any others are needed for towing up to 5000 lbs. The two that go into the tow hook spot are 10 mm grade 8.8 and use 36 ft lbs of torque. The 3rd one on the right is a 1/2 in bolt and is a grade 5. I didn't use any tab nuts--no need for drilling.#844 of 2024 hidden hitch 87544 is what I got too by conman2000
Jun 03, 2001 (7:26 pm)
I heard some other people on this board that had to drill. I think some years of the 92-97 did not have all holes drilled and it appears the 98+ Troopers had no problems. I too had two bolts leftover which seem to fit the nut tabs for those who needed to drill. Yes the instructions should have been more clearer as I noticed the bolts, washer and nuts were not labeled so I just pre-tested them in the holes first to see what went where as there were two sizes of lock washers as well.I took some pics as well and will give them to Paisan soon.
Cheers,
Con
P.S. Has anyone seen the factory hitch? From the pics it appears to be a HH model as it is hidden.
#845 of 2024 Conman & GPM by catmandu
Jun 03, 2001 (7:47 pm)
I just installed the hidden hitch this afternoon(between storms) Mine was also on a 01 S model. The part no. was 87544. Didnt need the tab nuts, as weld nuts worked. I agree with Crunchy, the instructions could have been better. All in all it was a one beer(30 min.) job,but I stretched it to two. I bought the adjustable ball mount (60 bucks) from J C Whitneys and the locking hitch pin. It sticks out past the spare on the top holes, so it will give some protection from a rear hit.#846 of 2024 HH catmandu by conman2000
Jun 03, 2001 (8:33 pm)
Cool. BTW, did you get the Lund bug guard too? I remember seeing a post at the wire about it.Cheers,
Con
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