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Nissan Frontier, Ford Ranger, Toyota Tacoma, Dodge Dakota, Mazda B-Series Pickup
Apr 12, 2002 (1:23 pm)
i never said they have info on 2003's, i just said they have it on the '01's since they named awards for the '01 model year. and "your" article only has '99's in it, and we're already close to '02 model years. just proving how outdated your little article's information is. and it is. and scorp, their award's a little different than a survey or poll. its what they think is good. and like you said earlier, its whatever is pretty new that gets it. after all, the gmc sonoma and envoy won this year. and according to your highly intelligent (uh, yeah) cohort pluto-baby, gm's quality is the shtis. whatever. im just waiting for his response to stang's posts on the other board. seems tacoma isn't as good as he thinks others think it is. scorp, you need to chill. everytime i mention something the ranger has or can be had on one, you totally ditch it and call it stupid or retarded, ie. mp3 player, 6 disc in-dash cd changer, two towhooks, but you took that back now didn't you. just cuz you can't get a factory supercharger on a solara, and you can on the new cobra, do you think it's stupid too? just be happy that we live in a country where a person can get pretty much any vehicle that suits their needs from the factory and not have to do anything to modify it. a 600 watt stereo or whatever it is with the look of a 4x4 is a pretty sharp truck to the person who is looking for something like that. i would think that this truck would be pretty popular down in california or florida. dont ditch it cuz toyota doesn't offer it. jeez.
and all-wise one- the ranger "trailhead" came out in 2000 as a pre-runner. the edge was introduced in '01. don't know when toyota came out with fake-runners, dont care either. i personally hate these types of trucks. sorry sad. just mo.
Apr 12, 2002 (1:27 pm)
So..tbunders point about "does Toyota offer anything like that?" refers to a deafying sound system, rather than a truck itself? Well, I can't say I'm impressed. Why does Toyota need to compete with that? I can get a prerunner with strong engine, put an aftermarket stereo system into it, white face gauges (or flaming). All that stuff is available aftermarket.
#552 of 579 scorpio.....
Apr 12, 2002 (1:31 pm)
actually, i think the new tremor has a new gauge cluster. white faced too. just like the new explorer sport's, special seats as well. you got us on an engine though (although getting the V6 on an otherwise stripped down tacoma would cost an arm and a leg as compared to getting the 3.0 V6 in the tremor standard). but, just like your s/c argument, that sound system you put on your truck wouldn't be warrantied. i cant believe you went there anyways. cuz everytime we say we could just buy an aftermarket s/c for a ranger, you throw that back in our faces. slip up?
Apr 12, 2002 (1:32 pm)
Ah, yes, the award itself is useless. But have you looked at the rating they do? Don't look at the awards, but rather rating system they have. Ranger loses.
Charger in a cobra? Great. It's a hotrod, it's bound to come with a charger.
PreRunner: it came out in 1999. So who's copying who? Oh, wait, you don't care.
I'm not ditching things just because. I definitely don't agree with having mp3 players in trucks: those two don't go together. A big-ass stereo belongs in a rice burner, not a truck.
Apr 12, 2002 (1:36 pm)
You don't get the picture about charger:
is Ford going to give you full warranty on it?
Of course, V6 in Tacoma would cost an arm and a leg. Considering that 2.7L I4 is nearly as powerful as your 3.0L, I think it's not a problem.
Apr 12, 2002 (5:58 pm)
The PreRunner came out in 1998 with the new body style. One of my friends has one.
tbunder - so you are saying that you might by a Double Cab Tacoma now? you said they were cheaply built and overpriced.???
#556 of 579 scorp........
Apr 12, 2002 (10:03 pm)
will ford warranty the s/c on the cobra? uh, yeah.
will toyota warranty your aftermarket stereo you said you'd just put in a tacoma pre-runner? no. you didn't address my issues in my post. what "awards" are you talking about? nice bow on the s/c issue i threw your way. you can put in an aftermarket stereo to compete with the FACTORY equipped tremor truck, but we can't put on a paxton or vortech s/c on a ranger from the aftermarket?
tgravo2- yeah, i do think toyota's are overpriced. but yeah, i would buy a d/c for the right price. i dont hate toyotas, just dont think they're built as rough as a ranger. its obvious. all you have to do is look at axles, shafts, skidplates, sheetmetal thickness, frame thickness. but i do like them. gm doesn't build a ZR2 crew-cab. that new ZR5 is a joke. its just flares and other stuff. i dont like the dodge. the nissan is okay, but a little iffy to own one. the tacoma and ranger kinda resemble each other in style. so that's why i'd buy it. i probably will wait until august to see if ford comes out with a 2003 crew cab ranger or something. but if not, i can see myself in a tacoma dc. i have decided i definitely need a truck. i will be hauling my motorcycles in it, wheels and tires, moving crap, etc. an suv is useless with that kind of need. later
Apr 12, 2002 (10:36 pm)
How can the Tacoma be rated so superior in quality over the Ranger by virtually every major publication (less repairs, etc.) yet not be built as rough as the Ranger? The Ranger obviously only appears that way to you. If the Ranger was built better it would have far less repairs on average than the Tacoma which isn't the case.
#558 of 579 i didn't say better........
Apr 12, 2002 (10:56 pm)
i said rougher, with heavier duty parts (go compare door and hood metal thickness, or frame thickness). whether or not those parts dont have the quality of toyota's is a matter of opinion. both sides have provided links saying the other truck is better. its all opinion. the buying public happens to think the ford is the way to go since ford sells boatloads more than toyota.
ford gives you better (dana) sturdier axles, thicker driveshafts, larger engine, more horsepower and torque, yadayadayada. you can't see spot-weld marks on any ranger. they're all over on the tacoma. the ranger can tow more and haul more. it is just a more heavy-duty/work oriented truck. it is an all-around designed truck. it can work and go off-road. whereas the toyota is obviously only designed to go off-road with its huge TRD decals. ford fits their trucks with standard stuff they know the buyer is going to need to work it. all that stuff is optional on the tacoma. also, the government says the ranger is safer too.
Apr 12, 2002 (11:23 pm)
According to stang's link from the other thread:
"...if you think you're ready for a formidable compact pickup, there are none tougher than Tacoma. The 2001 Tacoma is just the latest in a long line of tough Toyota trucks. Forged on a girder-like chassis, Tacoma wields an available double overhead cam multi-port fuel-injected V6 powerplant. With towering ground clearance and a strapping stance, this rig is all business."
We all know how you hang on every word that stang posts and take it as gospel. Doesn't this directly contradict what you just posted above? You're in quite a quandary. You don't want to disagree with your idol stang. Now what are you going to do?
Oh my! Stay tuned folks, the suspense is spiraling out control...