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#542 of 579 that link by tbunder

Apr 12, 2002 (10:49 am)

well, i finally did just check it out. i find it amusing that pluto tried to claim it as his, when smgilles posted it here and the other forum us close edmunds forum users use. "look what i just found". hehe
 
anyways, ok, that's a good argument for you toyota guys. good points. but, stang is right. that argument or article really doesn't represent the whole buying public. surveys don't mean squat. they are just a sample of the general public. kind of like election polls, they mean jack. everyone knows parts for a ranger are cheaper than any toyota part. also, if you're going to post links like that, AT LEAST maybe they could be current? i mean, we're almost into 2003 model year territory and that article was still using 1999 models.
 
pluto- im not gonna try and find an article for you. i simply don't care. i like the ranger AND the tacoma. whatever one suits my needs, i will buy. they're both good trucks. i just happen to be a ford guy and always will be. if ford doesn't make a crew cab ranger for '03, ill probably end up getting a tacoma for a year or at least until ford makes a crew cab ranger. im passing on the liberty or any suv for that matter. i actually don't care what others say about what truck is best. for me, the ranger is just as good, and better than the tacoma imo. it is just as good off-road with some real tires and even an aftermarket locker if you think you need one. i never did. they have more power and more creature comforts along with a sturdier built chassis. all for a lower price. and even with better tires and maybe a locker on the ranger, you're still looking at a truck that's cheaper than any tacoma w/o any of those things.

#543 of 579 tbundy by plutonious

Apr 12, 2002 (11:08 am)

"if you're going to post links like that, AT LEAST maybe they could be current? i mean, we're almost into 2003 model year territory and that article was still using 1999 models."
 
You have a dazzling intellect, tbundy. I would really like for you to explain to us all how reliability surveys can be conducted on 2003 models. You see, tbundy, when such surveys are conducted, they need to encompass trucks that have been around for a while to see how they held up...hence 1999 models and such being used in the survey...
 
"pluto- im not gonna try and find an article for you"
 
Why not? I've always found it easy to find articles where the Tacoma beats the Ranger! I think what you're really saying is "I CAN'T find an article!"

#544 of 579 nah..... by tbunder

Apr 12, 2002 (11:18 am)

im saying I DONT CARE. grow up, how old are you anyways?
 
and if your theory is right, how come jd powers can come up with real world data in a year?
 
why dont you find some current material, instead of posting about '99s and your ancient '98. everyone knows that the ranger was improved in a lot of ways for the '01 model year. yesterday i even saw a pre-runner version ranger called the TREMOR. it is all stereo. what's toyota got to offer to compare to that? oh yeah, nothing.

#545 of 579 Oh my! by plutonious

Apr 12, 2002 (11:32 am)

"and if your theory is right, how come jd powers can come up with real world data in a year?"
 
Well, now how can JD Powers do that with the 2003s? Have they been out a year? Now you're saying JD Powers has "real world data?" Except when it rates Toyotas as superior, right? LOL, you are the most consistently inconsistent person I've ever "met!"
 
OOOH, the TREMOR!!! I'm trembling! Come back and talk comparing trucks when Ford equips their off-road specific trucks with things like lockers instead of MP3 players...

#546 of 579 tbunder by sc0rpi0

Apr 12, 2002 (11:41 am)

So.....Liberty is out too. Well, I can't say I did not see that coming. Why don't you just get a bestselling Escape? 5-7 recalls a year don't seem to bother you, so why not?
What does "it is all stereo" mean? It has a big "doof doof" stereo? From what I could find in 5 seconds, Tremor has 3.0L engine.....thats not a good thing. At least our prerunner comes with 3.4L (or 2.7L 150hp one). So how can you say Toyota got nothing to compare to that?
As for JD Powers: they are also doing a survey.
And if done properly, surveys can be a real statistical indication of the measured phenomenon. And if you want to mention JD Powers: In 2001 data, Ranger did not score all that high. Certainly lower than Tacoma.

#547 of 579 Wait a minute... by plutonious

Apr 12, 2002 (11:52 am)

Wasn't Toyota the first to come out with 2 wheel drive trucks (PreRunners) that sit high and appear to be 4x4s? NOW FORD IS COPYING TOYOTA'S IDEA? WHAT IS THE WORLD COMING TO???!!
 
"it is all stereo"??
 
Maybe those excessive "deafcibels" have taken their toll on tbundy's logic...

#548 of 579 Chill with the personal attacks pluto. by midnight_stang

Apr 12, 2002 (12:25 pm)

Can't you debate without personal attacks or insults?

Scorp---> The tremor package is a lot more than just a 3.0l engine. http://media.ford.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=11505

Kinda overkill to me, but would be cool to be factory equipped. Only 6000 will be produced. Sort of like the limited edition Mach I mustangs coming out, and the ultimate GT-40 to be produced.

My 93 Ranger has a very similair sound system, except mine is totally aftermarket, without a subwoofer built into the cab. I could see a younger me contemplating a Tremor ranger. At least it would have saved me a lot of time running wires all over the place under the carpeting and to the battery.

Pluto---> Ford is trying to appeal to the consumers. That's why they offer the monochromatic package with 4x4 suspension, various audio packages.

Your hatred and animosity towards Fords and Rangers only prove how much your fear the competition.

So let's just appreciate the diversity, and chill out on the insults.

#549 of 579 children by steve234

Apr 12, 2002 (12:34 pm)

I have been monitoring this since inception and have yet to see as childish group as T&S&P. Get a life. People buy the vehicle that suits them. If it works for you fine, but don't go taliban. I have driven Fords for over 35 years. I am a big fan, but my current truck is a Dakota. It has the power to pull what I tow, the room to haul four and fits in my garage. I have been very pleased with the reliablilty and love the looks. This is what ownership is about-finding the vehicle that makes you happy. Toyo is not one of the biggest manufacturers because it puts out junk and neither is Ford. (I'll pass on GM)

#550 of 579 pluto.... by tbunder

Apr 12, 2002 (2:23 pm)

i never said they have info on 2003's, i just said they have it on the '01's since they named awards for the '01 model year. and "your" article only has '99's in it, and we're already close to '02 model years. just proving how outdated your little article's information is. and it is. and scorp, their award's a little different than a survey or poll. its what they think is good. and like you said earlier, its whatever is pretty new that gets it. after all, the gmc sonoma and envoy won this year. and according to your highly intelligent (uh, yeah) cohort pluto-baby, gm's quality is the shtis. whatever. im just waiting for his response to stang's posts on the other board. seems tacoma isn't as good as he thinks others think it is. scorp, you need to chill. everytime i mention something the ranger has or can be had on one, you totally ditch it and call it stupid or retarded, ie. mp3 player, 6 disc in-dash cd changer, two towhooks, but you took that back now didn't you. just cuz you can't get a factory supercharger on a solara, and you can on the new cobra, do you think it's stupid too? just be happy that we live in a country where a person can get pretty much any vehicle that suits their needs from the factory and not have to do anything to modify it. a 600 watt stereo or whatever it is with the look of a 4x4 is a pretty sharp truck to the person who is looking for something like that. i would think that this truck would be pretty popular down in california or florida. dont ditch it cuz toyota doesn't offer it. jeez.
 
and all-wise one- the ranger "trailhead" came out in 2000 as a pre-runner. the edge was introduced in '01. don't know when toyota came out with fake-runners, dont care either. i personally hate these types of trucks. sorry sad. just mo.

#551 of 579 stang by sc0rpi0

Apr 12, 2002 (2:27 pm)

So..tbunders point about "does Toyota offer anything like that?" refers to a deafying sound system, rather than a truck itself? Well, I can't say I'm impressed. Why does Toyota need to compete with that? I can get a prerunner with strong engine, put an aftermarket stereo system into it, white face gauges (or flaming). All that stuff is available aftermarket.

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