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Nissan Frontier, Ford Ranger, Toyota Tacoma, Dodge Dakota, Mazda B-Series Pickup
Apr 10, 2002 (7:09 am)
4Runner will get the new setup first in 2003. Tacoma is due to get it in 2004 (3.7L V6, possibly 4.7L Tundra engine). As for beating Ranger: Lets put it this way: 3.4L ruled since 1995.5 until 2001, when Ford finally put out an engine thats not a joke (waiting for tbunder to start talking about how old 4.0L had more torque. While you are at it, don't forget to mention all the problems it had) that could finally compete with 3.4L. I've read that 3.7L would be 230-240hp/trq, not 250, but thats for the 4Runner, and its' exaust is tuned (currently, at least) for a little lower performance. So new Taco could very well have even more power. But, rumor is that Tacoma will get redesigned and move into midsize category. We'll just have to wait and see.
Apr 10, 2002 (9:17 am)
WIll someone explain to me in detail why they have a problem with the placement of the Tacoma's clock. I'm a little under six feet tall and the clock is in a perfect position for me. I never have any problem seeing it at all. Are the guys complaing here only four or five feet tall or what?
Apr 10, 2002 (9:44 am)
I'm 5'9" and have to tilt my head to see it. It could also depend on the tilt of the steering wheel. Many factors, but seems like passenger is the one mostly benefitting from the clock.
Apr 10, 2002 (10:56 am)
I had never really thought about the clock in a bad placement, Im 6' and I could see it well, I guess it depends how reclined you sit in your seat and how low or high you tilt your steering wheel, I also had a cd player that I put in myself that displayed the time so I guess I never paid much attention to it
Apr 10, 2002 (11:43 am)
LOL, made ya mad eh? i never said the reason you got stuck was cuz you didn't have two towhooks. i just reiterated what i originally said, that two towhooks were better than one. and then reiterated what you said, that having two was stupid and to knock it off about the two towhooks.
and then you totally change your mind about it. just admit you were wrong and i was right. two are better than one little hook under the frame. i dont care what you drive, if you dont have the means to pull it out, its useless. ie. you only having one little hook, and now saying you're gonna buy another one. as you say, its plain english. i posted everything you said. its right there. all you have to do is read it. if you didn't think you needed another towhooks, you wouldn't have come on here and said "i take back the towhook stuff." you evidently have a problem admitting you're wrong.
Apr 10, 2002 (11:52 am)
"and then you totally change your mind about it."
Kind of like when you bragged nonstop when you thought your Ranger had a locker, found out it didn't, then said lockers were worthless just because the Tacoma TRD has them?
Have you changed your mind on your (bogus) claims that Rangers outweigh Tacomas by 600lbs? I would think that extra weight would really hinder the Ranger's "jumping" performance you kept bragging about here at Edmunds. OOOPS, that's right, according to your E-BAY advertisement you never "abused" your truck.
Come on, keep up the posts, this is fun!!!
#520 of 579 I already admitted that I could have used 2 hooks.
Apr 10, 2002 (2:37 pm)
Key word is could. I didn't need 2 hooks. But guys told me to get another one upfront and hook/hitch in the rear, so if I get into a situation like that again, it's a little easier and instead of dragging my truck up they can winch it down.
So, just to reiterate: Yes, I could have used 2 hooks. No, I didn't NEED 2 hooks. I got out with 1.
You make it sound like the tow hook I got is totally useless. Somehow it's not the case, because I can see my truck from the office window, and it definitely does not look like it rolled down the hill. I'm gonna get another hook because older ttora guys told me to after I got pulled out (more like while I was getting pulled out), not because of you.
Apr 10, 2002 (2:57 pm)
I have to admit I do like the way all Ford trucks have the tow hooks set up, I like seeing them when you look at the front of the truck, especially the chrome ones on the FX4, but there is nothing wrong with the Tacoma one. You make it sound like the Ranger is better just because it has two tow hooks. I dont hear any complaints from Tacoma owners about thier single tow hook.
The only thing I don't like about the position of the Ford's tow hooks is I have seen some Ford trucks with body lifts and after the lift is put on, the tow hooks are now below the bumper and it just looks stupid, I guess the Tacoma's hidden one can be an advantage.
Apr 10, 2002 (3:39 pm)
tbunder does not believe in lifts: for him being a real offroader is to "take a stock truck far and beyong". Which is probably why he does not consider jumping a truck an abuse.
So Ford towhooks are also for a showoff? I'm wondering, though, what point is having a chrome hook, because chrome is just coating. It'd get scraped off pretty fast.
Apr 10, 2002 (6:32 pm)
If you want to keep bringing up old arguments against tbunder, aren't you forgetting that you thought your part time locker was ALSO a limited slip differential when not fully locked?
"The Tacoma's rear locker can be be engaged at will by the driver only when needed, then turned off. The rest of the time it's good old LSD, so you get the best of both worlds. I assure you, there's no hopping and tire chirping going around corners in my truck; the locker is turned off. I understand and can appreciate your point, however, on trucks with full-time lockers.
Tblunder, you've proven to be TOO UNKNOWLEDGEABLE to have an intelligent conversation with. You can't even tell what tire sizes you have, the difference between lockers and LSDs, what swaybars do, ETC. "
Let's not forget the design flaw on the Ranger where the door unlocks when open the door from the inside.
tgravo--->I guess the main thing about the clock is that for most people it is in a place not too easily seen by the driver. Also that you pay 80 bucks for something that should be part of the radio to begin with.
"I believe in the 99 or 2000 Tacoma brochure they had a guy in there with a 1984 single cab toyota with 1,000,000 miles on it. Id say thats pretty good. I have never seen a Ford with over 300,000 miles on it."
So it's OK to brag about that in a brochure, but you can't brag about Ford trucks in commercials?