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Nissan Frontier, Ford Ranger, Toyota Tacoma, Dodge Dakota, Mazda B-Series Pickup
Apr 05, 2002 (6:50 am)
Unless I'm wrong (which is possible), there's only 1 midsize pickup: dakota.
Tacoma, Frontier, Ranger and S10 are compact pickups. F150, Tundra, Silverado, Ram are fullsize.
As far as compacts go:
4-door Tacoma with 4x4 will be $25K at least.
You can get an xtracab Ranger with 2 real doors and 2 half doors (it's not a double/crew cab, it's an extended cab).
Best gas milage: Taco or Ranger. An xtracab 4x4 Tacoma is by far the lightest, 60 lbs lighter than a Ranger.
Best on snow/ice: does not depend on the truck. Depends on the tires and the driver. My Taco handles fine.
Least mechanical problems: recall and TSB info speaks for itself. Ranger's got a long list of everything. Tacoma likes to hide problems and tell customers its their own fault, BUT:
There are only few problems people mention about Tacomas:
1. Rattling dash. I haven't experienced that at all, and it's a $5 fix to begin with.
2. Water getting through the firewall. Again, I haven't seen any of that, nor I think have any of the TTORA guys I've talked to.
You'll hear about "1-star side impact ratings" that Tacoma got in 1998. Thats a load of crap.
Head gasket problems, again, back in 1997.
What do you need the truck for and how much money do you have to spend on it?
I'd just say, go with Toyota. But there are some pros and cons.
Apr 05, 2002 (8:04 am)
As Scorpio said, the only real "midsize" truck would be the Dakota. Take a look at the Dakota Quad Cab. It's a good looking truck with 4 real doors and a real bed. Dodge has never been known for reliability, and the gas mileage won't be great (you're buying a truck, not an economy car) but I've heard good things about it.
Other considerations might be the Tacoma Double Cab (a compact truck but might be big enough for your needs) and the Explorer Sport Trac. My beef with the Sport Trac is it's small bed. It's really more of an SUV than a pickup.
Apr 05, 2002 (8:55 am)
Taco DC also has a small bed, but aside from that, it is more truck than a SportTrac.
Apr 05, 2002 (10:34 am)
Why do you always focus on numbers in brochures and not real world performance? Nissan these days seems to be completely focused on being able to advertise the largest horse-power figures. Yet when you drive their cars, you keep wondering, "where's the beef." In fact, if you go over to the car forums, there's a thread titled "The power of Nissan" where the general concensus among the hundreds of postings is that Nissans' performance aren't commensurate their hyped horse-power figures. The Nissan Spec V looks awesome on paper, yet it is continually shredded by the automotive world for its lackluster performance and numerous shortcomings. I even provided you with a copy of such an article. I've driven the Pathfinder and Maxima and quite frankly was expecting much more from the advertised 260 HP-range figures.
You like to keep saying even the older Ford 4.0 had a slight torque advantage over the Toyota 3.4, yet in every performance test, the Toyota beat the Ford (and everything else). How do you explain that? You seem to be obsessed with brochure bragging rights and not performance.
Why don't you save the time and effort involved in posting your long-winded opinionated crap and just provide us with links showing how the Ranger (or Frontier, LOL) outperform the Tacoma.
That'll be the day!
#488 of 579 Wh y Tacoma wins...
Apr 05, 2002 (6:59 pm)
Power to weight ratio.
#489 of 579 Horsepower to weight ratio
Apr 05, 2002 (9:45 pm)
Are you sure about that?
#490 of 579 Alright, I'd like to take back some of the tow hook stuff
Apr 07, 2002 (2:32 pm)
that I've said.
Today I could have used 1 more tow hook on the front, when I got hung up on a hill and damn nearly rolled over (all the way down).
But I got winched up by 2 Tacos (one on the hook, one on the frame to straighten me up, then both hooked up to the tow hook), and the hook took the abuse of pulling a 3,500 hunk of metal up a hill.
So now I'm gonna go and buy myself another towhook.
Apr 07, 2002 (6:07 pm)
At least you were saved by two other Taco's. You must of been where other Rangers or lesser trucks couldn't get to you. Even if, the Ranger would have probably ripped off a bumper trying to tow anything out.
Apr 07, 2002 (7:42 pm)
I understand that some people could get fooled by the "clever" trick to emulate plutonious by using a name piutonius. Is this some disgrunted Ranger fans' idea of "revenge" by making Tacoma owners look like complete and total buttheads?
Apr 08, 2002 (5:53 am)
odds are it's Tbunder. Notice how we haven't seen him lately since his last blow-up.