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#900 of 2127 Consumer Reports
Mar 08, 2003 (2:06 pm)
It surprises me to hear that users of a Toyota board would berate Consumer Reports (post #890). Toyota makes exactly the kinds of cars that CR loves. In fact, the April 2003 issue rates the RAV4 as the best small SUV (as far as I know, the only publication to rank it ahead of the CR-V and Forester) and also calls it one of the "most influential" cars of the last fifty years (for being the first car-based SUV). As for the latter, it's in pretty good company: BMW 2002, Corvette, Mustang, Beetle, and the like.
Mar 10, 2003 (8:43 am)
I was actually in Hong Kong for the past two weeks. Anyway, these kits are factory kits from Toyota. There is a website that imports these from Japan. They do cost a pretty penny.
#903 of 2127 Body kits for RAV4
Mar 10, 2003 (2:00 pm)
totalnet - Thanks for the info. They are pertty pricy.
#904 of 2127 Totalnet: Rav4 vs X trail
Mar 11, 2003 (2:33 am)
Totalnet: I was choosing from CRV, X-trail and Rav4. They are all for display in an exhibition centre in Tianjin and will be replaced by the 04models in May(so I can get them very cheap). My friend further shortlisted for me to Xtrail and Rav but I still found it difficult to compare cuz there isn't Xtrail in the US. I guess u may know Xtrail(Nissan made and sold out US) since u were from HK. Both cars are luxury trim and the Rav has more factory made kit with it(for display) and is 14000 HKD more expensive than Xtrail.
My heart tells me to go for the Rav since it looks really cool in blue and all the kits on. Still my head tells me to go for the Xtrail since it is larger/more powerful(2.5l) and pracical. Can you give me some suggestion please? I need to make a decision in two days. Thanks
BTW, I live in Shanghai.
#905 of 2127 RAV4 vs X trail
Mar 11, 2003 (8:07 am)
I really live in the US, but as I said in a message before that I just came back from Hong Kong. Nissan does not sell the Xtrail here in the US. Nissan only has the Xterra here, which is a totally different vehicle than the Xtrail.
I can't say what your needs are. When I was doing my car shopping, the main reason I choose the RAV4 was the look and good price I got on it. There are lot more SUVs with more power and larger side than the RAV4 in the US. Having driven a 3L V6 and 4L V8 cars before the RAV4, I have not feel the lost of power as I would have expected. I end up saving alot on fuel cost. I feel the quality of both Toyota and Nissan are very good, having own 3 Toyota and 3 Nissan.
I am asumming that you are going to keep it for a long time. You must feel good driving and not have second thought about your decision. Also, how are traffic in Shanghai? Having been in Hong Kong and Guangzhou, they some time can get pretty bad. But I can say the same thing for the San Francisco Bay Area.
Mar 11, 2003 (9:34 am)
totalnet - Did he mention the redesign 2004 RAV4 due in May? Maybe for Japan or Asian countries only (even European). US always gets it a year late. I believe there could be a facelift for 2004. If Toyota redesign the model every 5 years, why they get a facelift on 2003 model instead of 2004? Well, beside the "S" package (2003 model) with raised hood and new grille.
#907 of 2127 Rav4 VS Xtrail
Mar 12, 2003 (2:27 am)
Thanks to totalnet. Still a hard call for me. I might flip a coin to decide it. Anyway I don't think I will go wrong with any of them.
The 04 models of Japaness cars should arrive in China only in June, my friend told me. And there might not be too much changes for the compact SUVs, as far as the dealers know. And if it is only a facelift, I think the Rav is already cool enough.
Mar 12, 2003 (7:50 am)
If Toyota stick with the 7 years cycle like the first generation RAV4, it going to be a facelift. I think the first generation RAV4 had a facelift in the 4 year of it's life cycle. Since all RAV4 are made in Japan, the US will get pretty much the same RAV4. Of course I heard Toyota is thinking of moving the production of RAV4 for North America to Canada.
#909 of 2127 Purchased 2003 RAV4
Mar 12, 2003 (8:30 am)
My wife and I just purchased a 2003 RAV4 Spectra Mica Blue with Quick Order Pkg., moonroof, and extra stuff added by P.O.E. and dealer. We got
a cash price of $20.5K. MSRP was $22.6K. We went
trought Fleet Sales and effectively got invoice
+ $200.00 over.
My wife had her heart set on a white Sport model which was listed in the dealer inventory but was actually not. We would've had to wait for another
to come in or special order and wait for several
more months. However, she was determined to get
something and she liked the blue color anyway. All in all the Sport Package didn't make a big difference to her either.
Toyota seems to like piling on a lot of extras
at the Port of Entry and dealership. We wanted
some of the extras but others we did't, so we negotiated discounts or no cost on stuff we did and didn't want. The dealership even threw-in
window-tinting for free.
The process, even with the fleet-sales, was too long compared with our last vehicle purchase. Something the dealership/Toyota should work on.
The RAV4 is perfect for my wife because she wanted
small(er) and high(er) without extra largesse in
the vehicle. She enjoys driving it immensely
and has a reasonably high seat position. She
has bad arthritis and this was definitely a factor
getting in and out of any vehicle. Out of all of
small-utes we tested the RAV4 fit her best.
She effectvely can slide in and out of the seat
with no problem w/o stooping or bending too much.
I've driven the RAV4 myself and was impressed
with the overall quality and drivability. Wish
it had another 40-50 HP though. It'd be a hoot
to scoot around in then. My Ford Escape has
201 HP and never feels winded, but I pay in less
gas mileage too. The first fill-up on the RAV4
averaged 24 MPG city with a little hwy. mileage.
Not bad and I expect that may go up a little.