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Toyota RAV4, SUV
#780 of 2127 new purchase
Nov 08, 2002 (8:50 am)
After much research, consumer reports, testdrives, I bought a 2003 rav4 5 speed 2wd
with quick order pkg at Spartan Toyota Lansing MI. Sticker after $1000 discount was
$18500, they quoted $17,000 and I took it. Probably could have gotten for less but it
was the only gold one I had come across and I wanted it bad. Also note I tested an automatic
and that is a superfine setup also. I would have also bought this if it had automatic.
This is a well built car. Positives: 28.5 mpg at 1500 miles, should increase as I break
it in. turning radius increadibly short. Interior seats 6 foot frame comfortable. handles long drives well. I do not want to get out of car, interior feels so right. My other vehicles are a 99
Ford F 150 and a 01 Ford Expedition which get 14 mpg. Ford Escape was not and option at 17 mpg. I needed gas mileage. Santa Fe rode mushy and new Honda CRV body style plain jane and looks like car is 2 foot wide.
I have the cowl rattle. I bought the menards insulation and pep boys screws and I will do my own cowl fix this weekend (see internet sites on this), cost $20. Dealer fix not good and I
want this car perfect. It will be.
Came with base 16" steel mag wheels. I want to put on 17" alloys. Has anyone done this and would they scrape frame? My reasoning is simple: Larger tires cover more distance per rotaion
thus allowing engine to rev less at higher speeds, increasing mpg. plus they would really make this car look tougher. Yada Yada speedometer would be off, but who watches speed anymore?
Nov 08, 2002 (10:26 am)
your mpg is only going to be better at high speeds - around town it will be worse. They just had a segment on this a couple of weeks ago on "Car Talk", and an engineer came on to talk about it.
Anyone out there have a 5 spd AWD? They are very rare here in the SF Bay Area..it would be nice if they were more available, the auto sucks a lot of power up.
The only 5 speeds I have seen are 2WDers.
#782 of 2127 Local dealer has 3 AWD 5-spds
Nov 08, 2002 (5:35 pm)
They're all used 2001's. They're asking about $17,000. They all appear to have the QO pkg.
Nov 09, 2002 (9:38 am)
rav4man: Glad you like it. Enjoy your new ride.
mathtype: I agree. The RAV4 is real good all around (if you don't tow or climb hills regularly), but it really shines in the city.
I've found it to be a nice travel vehicle. My gf and I just took a 3-day trip, also took an 8-day trip in July. With just one rear seat removed, there was plenty of room and convenient access to all our stuff. And I can still park in "compact car" spaces.
Nov 09, 2002 (12:54 pm)
What is the deal with the RAV4 not having a rear bumper? Is this an issue for anyone? I understand the crash test results are favorable for the RAV4, but intuitively it just seems like a bad idea to not have a bumper??
Can anyone help me on this? Don't know if it makes a difference, but I live in an urban area, so I would be concerned with issues such as tight parallel parking, etc.
Like many others, I am looking at the RAV4, CRV and Forrester.
Thanks in advance for any guidance.
#785 of 2127 2WD vs. 4WD
Nov 10, 2002 (10:08 am)
Was just wondering, does anyone have an idea percentage wise, of how many of each type (2wd-4wd) are sold. We are trying to decide which one would be better for us living in the Northeast, doing no off-roading but contending with some snow. From other posts I have noticed that some packages or options only come in 2WD models and vice-verse. I guess my main concern is the extra initial cost of a 4WD along with the lower gas mileage.
Thanks for any thoughts on this subject.
#786 of 2127 For Nikki15 - 2wd vs. 4wd
Nov 10, 2002 (2:44 pm)
For the benefits of 4wd in snow, check out the article in the December 2002 issue of Consumer Reports. I think you will find it useful.
As for 2wd vs. 4wd in a RAV4, for me it was a no-brainer. I live in California and don't ever drive in snow or on non-paved roads. So, by ordering a 2wd RAV4:
1. I saved about $1000.
2. I get better gas mileage.
3. I believe I get faster acceleration.
4. My car has a numerically lower rear axle ratio (about 10% lower), so it turns fewer revs at any given speed.
5. My car has a less complex power train, which might translate into better reliability.
HOWEVER, if I had to drive on snow from time to time, I might waive all the above advantages of 2wd in favor of the increased security that 4wd offers. ALSO, you are right about the fact that Toyota bundles certain options together based on region. For example, in 2002, it was literally impossible to get a 2wd stick shift RAV4 with antilock brakes anywhere in California. To see which option packages are available in your area, go to the "Build Your Own" section of toyota.com, put in your Zip code, and you will see which combos of options are possilbe.
#787 of 2127 For mathtype - message #750
Nov 10, 2002 (5:30 pm)
Many thanks for the info. After visiting the Toyota site, I know exactly what I have to choose from. If I want a 5-speed, the 4WD is my only choice.
#788 of 2127 RAV-4 Rear bumper
Nov 11, 2002 (6:06 am)
There are a couple of things going into the design of the rear of the RAV-4. First, as an SUV, there actually isn't any requirement for a rear bumper. However, as is shown by the crash test results, they do have all of the crumple zones built into the rear of the vehicle. The rear quarters do have bumpers built into them, but a bumper across the whole rear would have to detrimental effects to the vehicle. First, the spare would have to be higher, impeding the visibility, which if you've driven one, you'll notice it doesn't do now. Secondly, the load floor would need to be both higher and stick out further, impeding the ability to load the rear. One of the best parts about the RAV is that the cargo floor is so low, it's very easy to get things into and out of.
Nov 11, 2002 (9:31 am)
Toyota allocate it's models base on regions. I am pretty sure that in your region, there are more AWD models available. In the built your car section of Toyota's website, the first thing it ask is your zip code. Also some dealer websites do have an online inventory section. Check that listing and you should at least see what is available.