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For what it's worth Scoti1, I think it's a bit premature to speculate at any length about what little is known so far. As I understand it, the first mechanic said oil was like "mud", which can mean many things. The car "stalled out", which can also mean a bunch of possibilities. Now the vehicle is at the dealer being diagnosed, and the owner apparently hasn't yet received any info as to cause, effect, or repair cost. Speculating about the color of the "mud", or dispensing advice about sludge at this juncture, might raise unwarranted concerns. I would like more info, especially what the dealer has to say, before raising any flags. I have some ideas about what might be involved with this problem, but without more details it might unduly confuse things. These people are (justifiably) worried, and I think it's unwise to create additional concerns at this point. |
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Replying to: cindyc (Jan 31, 2005 1:14 pm)
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Replying to: mcdawgg (Feb 01, 2005 5:12 am) Also, cindyc, I am still interested in the appearance and consistency of the mud if you have that information.
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Replying to: scoti1 (Feb 01, 2005 6:57 am)
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Replying to: cindyc (Feb 01, 2005 7:20 pm) |
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doesn't toyota have a 60,000 mile drive train warranty? seems if you have the receipts for all your oil changes, they have to cover it
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Replying to: 719b (Feb 02, 2005 12:15 pm)
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Replying to: cindyc (Feb 02, 2005 4:24 pm) Your mechanic may be good, but I am a little skeptical of someone who does not record this information. I have a hard time blaming Toyota with anything related to sludge just because no one can provide real proof, and also because of the two guys I talked to who work at a large dealer. Just my opinion. By the way, the spark plugs on 2001 thru current Ravs do not require (per the manual) spark plug changes until at least 80,000 miles, so that dealer is full of it. Although I would change them sooner, but that's me. Seriously, I wish you the best of luck. Also, congrats on the new baby. |
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No mileage and VIN on the receipts could be the kiss of death. Does your mechanic keep electronic records? Maybe those are more complete. Do you have the date on the receipts? Does the date record show reasonable maintenance? I was told that people getting the fix under the sludge policy only had to show proof of one oil change per year! Also, what about the people who change their own oil? Other than the date of the purchase of the oil (if they keep those receipts) would be documented. Can they deny warranty to someone on the basis of lack of maintenance if they change their own oil? One other comment, Cindy, the amount they are quoting you is outrageous. I would estimate it is about double what one would expect to pay for a rebuilt or new engine. If you do replace the engine, I would not give the Toyota dealership one penny of that money.
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There's something wrong with the whole situation. There is a big part of the puzzle missing. As some have stated, key pieces of information are required before anyone can arrive at solutions and/or blame. Here are few questions. Who actually drove the car in for oil changes? The first mechanic couldn't find anything wrong with it? Toyota offered to install a used motor on a 2002 for $6,000.00? Something just doesn't add up.
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