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Truth be told, there are a number of reasons why your Rav4 engine oil could have become "like mud".(BTW,That engine wasn't one of the ones which was alledged to have problems.) As Mcdawgg says, lack of, or extended oil changes are by far the most common reasons for sludge development. And yes, there has been considerable discussion about sludge in the past. In spite of what some insisted, it eventually turned out there was far more hype than substance to the controversy. When the dust finally settled, it also became clear that Mcdawgg's assessment and experience is as close to the truth as it gets. In your case it's difficult to provide any kind of helpful information without more information from you AND your dealer. When an assessment by your dealer is made on what the cause (or causes) might be, it would be interesting to hear what was determined. |
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Replying to: cindyc (Jan 29, 2005 6:01 pm) The others are right in that the Toyota engine sludge campaign was limited to certain models and years and does not include the Rav-4. If you maintained your engine according to Toyota specifications and developed sludge, then you could have recourse through the new car drive train warranty, if still in effect. Toyota has placed inserts in some vehicles stating specifically that the warranty will not cover sludge. If that is the case, and again, if you maintained your car according to Toyota's specifications, then the next step would be lawsuit or arbitration. |
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We did get the oil changed on a regular basis, and this family has been going to the same mechanic for over 20 years. the car had about 45,000 miles on it. Most of the miles were put on it in the first year, but the last year and a half, we didn't drive it as much. we have 4 oil change receipts for 2004, the last one was in october, and I had a baby on october 20, so we really haven't driven a lot at all since then. By what little the dealership is saying, we are guessing the car needs a new engine. we don't know what we are going to do, it seems unacceptable that a car we bought new and had oil changes regularly in would die like this.
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For what it's worth Scoti1, I think it's a bit premature to speculate at any length about what little is known so far. As I understand it, the first mechanic said oil was like "mud", which can mean many things. The car "stalled out", which can also mean a bunch of possibilities. Now the vehicle is at the dealer being diagnosed, and the owner apparently hasn't yet received any info as to cause, effect, or repair cost. Speculating about the color of the "mud", or dispensing advice about sludge at this juncture, might raise unwarranted concerns. I would like more info, especially what the dealer has to say, before raising any flags. I have some ideas about what might be involved with this problem, but without more details it might unduly confuse things. These people are (justifiably) worried, and I think it's unwise to create additional concerns at this point. |
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Replying to: cindyc (Jan 31, 2005 1:14 pm)
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Replying to: mcdawgg (Feb 01, 2005 5:12 am) Also, cindyc, I am still interested in the appearance and consistency of the mud if you have that information.
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Replying to: scoti1 (Feb 01, 2005 6:57 am)
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Replying to: cindyc (Feb 01, 2005 7:20 pm) |
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doesn't toyota have a 60,000 mile drive train warranty? seems if you have the receipts for all your oil changes, they have to cover it
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Replying to: 719b (Feb 02, 2005 12:15 pm)
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