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#1663 of 2127 Re: 
Nov 02, 2004 (7:53 pm)
First let me apologize. I was hasty in my response without understanding the whole story. That is not only awful what the Toyota dealer told you, but unethical as well. Have you tried reporting this incident to Toyota Motor Corp?
Secondly, I was not aware that they were difficult to get with side airbags. Luckily for me it was on the lot, and the fact that it was equipped with the side airbags and curtain sold me on it. Maybe I was lucky, because I don't know if they are hard to get in the NY/Conn area.
I don't know if you read my comments on the Rav4, but I will tell you that my 2003 Hyundai Sante Fe LX is a better value. That SUV came with side airbags as well and it's standard! Not only that, but for about the same price it came with a powerful V6, leather seats, moonroof and is much more roomy, bigger and comfortable. It has a quieter ride as well. gas mileage is about the same even though the Rav has a smaller V4. The handling is good, but I have to say the Rav handles slightly better. That's the only plus I give the Rav. There are no curtain bags available on the Sante Fe, but I now see your point as to why Toyota is endangering lives by having them available but making them scarce. Now that I understand the whole story, I'm with you. It's a shame...it really is.
I wish you the best of luck and keep up the good fight. You certainly have my ear!
Nov 02, 2004 (10:16 pm)
Thank you for seeing things in my perspective.
I'm glad though that my RAV COFFIN is out of my system. After considering the Element, Colorado/Canyon CRV, Frontier and RX8, I traded in my RAV4 for a Mazda RX8 red,mt,demo model sold way below invoice, price was so sweet, one to difficult to pass though I wanted blue. It's bad on gas though,it's greedier than my wifes Pilot and needs babying.However it's got the features I priced most sideairbags and even curtains.Crash test were impressive too.The heck with reliability, thats what I got my AAA membership for anyways, besides this car rides and handles like a fantasy dream.
I just hope my winter wheels from tirerack would keep this baby running when MD snow starts falling.It's a sin to keep this car in the garage.
You have a good day.
#1665 of 2127 2004 RAV4 Fwd in the rain
Nov 03, 2004 (5:34 am)
I've been debating between the 2004 RAV4 FWD and CRV AWD. I've been on two separate RAV4 test drives in the rain and noticed that the RAV4's wheels spin a bit when taking off from a complete stop. (ie stoplight) My husband thinks it is probably because I am not used to the power of an SUV (currently driving a Civic), but I didn't notice this on the CRV (also 2 test drives in the rain). The rain is not extreme, just a regular downpour. Is it because the CRV is AWD? I didn't think that AWD would make such a difference in regular rain conditions. Any advice?
#1666 of 2127 Re: 2004 RAV4 Fwd in the rain [ewind54]
Nov 03, 2004 (6:24 am)
I noticed the same thing with my Rav 4 FWD too, but it's usually worse whenever you make a turn from a complete stop and when the road is wet.On seven ocassions my butt almost got clipped by oncoming traffic. On straight lines tire spin is not so obvious.I guess the AWD makes a difference because my wifes' Honda Pilot which got terrible Goodyear Integrity tires does not have the problem negotiating tight turns from a complete stop with the road soaking wet.
However if the Rav 4 appeals to you, I suggest you sell the stock tires at ebay, and change it with an oustanding set of tires. Maybe a set of Goodyear Fortera HL if it comes in RAV4 size wheels.The next best option are Dunlops Radial Rover AT, am sure it's tailored for the RAV4. My co-workers owning RAVs swear this solved the tirespin problems, but you have to be faithful to the tire rotation sched, otherwise get a 4wd RAV. For more detailed info on whats the best tire to match the car of your choice, check www.tirerack.com.
Hope this helps, you have a good day.
#1668 of 2127 Aftermarket effects on Side Curtain Airbags
Nov 06, 2004 (11:55 am)
I just got a 2005 Rav4 L with the Side Curtain Airbags. I held out for 4 mos. and when one showed up, I went ahead and got it even though it did not have the leather seats or the autodimming mirror w/compass & thermostat that I wanted. I figured I'd get those aftermarket.
Now that I have it, I read through the manual and it says changing the seats or upholstry might compromise the SCA, as would the autodimming mirror. Is this true? Does anyone know how I could get these aftermarket items without negating the whole point of waiting four months for a car?
#1670 of 2127 Re: Maybe someone can help [robrav4]
Nov 06, 2004 (3:56 pm)
I'm not sure I'm posting this in the right place, but I'm hoping someone can help. I started looking at the RAV4 and have gotten different dealer answers to what options are actually available. Is it really not possible to get the 6 disc cd changer installed? Two dealers told me you have to do it on your own after you get the car. This doesn't seem to make much sense since it's listed in edmunds, consumer reports, and also various websites. Also, is the driver's seat always manual or is it possible to get a power front seat? Any answers would be appreciated. Thanks.
#1671 of 2127 Re: 2004 RAV4 Fwd in the rain [ewind54]
Nov 09, 2004 (12:42 pm)
i bought a 2004 rav 4 4x4 the thing is the honda is not a true awd it is front wheel when wheels start slipping it moves some power to rear
not a great thing compared to the true 4x4 or awd systems
toyota has power at all 4 wheeels all the time
if you get any snow why even think get a 4x4 rav
trust me over the years their are so many cars i love but if they dont have awd the true kind like subaru has or toyota i cant get it
its not worth taking the chance
after having that control i will never ever give it up
i bought a vibe awd due to gm points i had etc
it was the fake awd like the honda, needless to say i had the car all of 8 months and traded it in for the toyota
now for rain yes it does make a difference. trust me i hace had a few close calls in my 45 years
i love my rav its not perfect i have a squeak in the dash etc little stuff, my toyota dealers in the area of buffalo ny suck, service is always everything seems fine and it takes 2 weeks for an appt. so that is a turn off big time
but the rav itself has been fine
i have not had it in any snow storms yet but my cousin has one and says it was very good
also i like subarus alot in snow and handling so you may want to check it out
ok hope it helped
#1672 of 2127 2004 rav 4x4
Nov 09, 2004 (12:52 pm)
ok ig ott he dash ratle too. i tell people it sounds like a slow popcorn popper. it comes from conter of dash i think but after reading all coments i guess it just sounds like it does. i have had it to 2 dealers, one said oh no that can't be that is only on the older models, the other one said they can't hear it.
also does anyone notice on the emergency brake.
if i am moving forward a bit and lift lightly on the emergency brake it makes a loud pop sound bang in the rear wheels. if im still or going in reverse it does not do it. both dealers say its normal and it will do that due to the pads or something engaging. i have been driving toyotas and subarus for years and never heard this one. also my cousin has a 2002 and it does not do this. finally if you live in the buffalo ny area i will tell you i love the toyota but the dealers suck.. not always friendly in sales and service so far has not been good at all. this will make me think again when buying a new one which i do often. thats ashame to cause i really do like the rav 4 4x4
also the sterio fades in and out a bit on fm not strong stations or something my neighbor has a highlander and hers sdoes the same thing
anyone hear that?
thanks for your help