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Re: suvshopper4 [petl] by revit [petl] [55535432] by robrav4
Nov 01, 2004 (11:28 pm)
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Replying to: 55535432 (Oct 13, 2004 8:30 pm)

What I don't understand is how you let a salesperson, whose job is to SELL a car, whether it's a Honda, Toyota or Mercedes sell you on side airbags being unsafe. You're an OR nurse, so I'd expect you to be more equipped than a freakin salesman to make that choice. Plus, nobody stopped YOU fro doing your OWN research prior to buying the car. Do you believe everything everybody tells you?
 
Yet you blame Toyota for your own foolish decisions. Even the finance rate. What, you couldn't shop for a lower one yourself??? I don't get it. I suggest instead of blaming Toyota for everything wrong in your life, that you start talking responsibility for your mistakes and actions.
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Hello Host by robrav4
Nov 01, 2004 (11:35 pm)
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Thanks for having me. How can you tell what post somebody is replying to? I just responded to another member who was complaining about the Rav4 safety and the high interest rate they got hit with, and my response looks odd just sitting there without other members knowing which specific post I responded to.
 
Thanks
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Re: [revit] by robrav4
Nov 01, 2004 (11:40 pm)
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Replying to: revit (Oct 19, 2004 2:55 pm)

I made sure mine came with one. Why? Because of the research that I did on my own. Their are literally thousands of sources that anyone can access to find out how effective side curtains are.
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Re: Hello Host [robrav4] by tidester HOST
Nov 02, 2004 (1:15 am)
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Replying to: robrav4 (Nov 01, 2004 11:35 pm)

How can you tell what post somebody is replying to?
 
You can use the "reply" link which will provide a subject line pointing to the post to which you are responding or you can simply pay attention to context and thread.
 
Also, let's try to tone down our disagreements with others. Raising questions or disagreeing is one thing but confrontation is a turnoff.
 
Thanks.
 
tidester, host
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Re: Hello Host [tidester] by robrav4
Nov 02, 2004 (10:04 am)
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Replying to: tidester (Nov 02, 2004 1:15 am)

Hi tidester.
 
My sincerest apologies to you, the member I replied to and the entire board. I will give it more thought before I type away with my respone in the future and I'll be more subtle and cordial.
 
I understand that hitting the reply link will direct me to that specific post I'm replying to. What if I wanted to see what someone else is replying to? Are you saying the only way to do this is to backtrack and follow prior posts to see the context? I'm a little confused and wonder if I have my preferences set wrong. Thanks again, and I promise to be a good soldier. Some great info is given here and I'd like to contribute whatever I can.
 
Rob
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Cowl rattle 2004 Rav4 by robrav4
Nov 02, 2004 (10:13 am)
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I'm hoping this might help with anyone who has the rattle and nothing seems to be working.
 
I read some good advice here concerning the 3M tape to prevent the rattle. In case that doesn't seem to be working well, I did locate the exact position where the rattle comes from. On the cowl there is a 1/2 black strip on the very top that snaps on. If you go to the drivers side and lift it (I put a wedge there) you will probably eliminate the rattle. Now you can be better prepared to show your Toyota service person the spot that is causing the rattle. If they don't know, they might not pay attention to that specific location and apply a thin strip across the entire cowl. If they focus on that one area and put something there to give it some lift, you might rid yourself of the rattle as I did. I just used a wet paper towel to wedge in there for testing purposes. This Thursday I have an appointment and I'll explain it to the service tech so he'll know what material to put in that location that won't be visible and not come off. Hope this helps.
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Re: Hello Host [robrav4] by tidester HOST
Nov 02, 2004 (11:38 am)
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Replying to: robrav4 (Nov 02, 2004 10:04 am)

Rob,
 
Currently, we don't have threaded discussions but that may change in the future.
 
tidester, host
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Re: Hello Host [tidester] by robrav4
Nov 02, 2004 (2:32 pm)
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Replying to: tidester (Nov 02, 2004 11:38 am)

Thanks, tidester. I wasn't sure.
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Re: [robrav4] by 55535432
Nov 02, 2004 (5:51 pm)
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Replying to: robrav4 (Nov 01, 2004 11:40 pm)

If you want me to blame myself, I tell you I already did a million times. I was a 10 month old DUMB immigrant then when I got that RAV 2003, and I didn't know what I know now in terms of sideairbag importance. The outrageous APR I called "charge to experience", but a dealer telling me sideairbags are unsafe for small passengers is unforgiveable, and me beliving what the dealer said is my mortal sin.
 
Anyway, Im still paying for that mortal sin of buying a RAV 4 by making myself available to friends and co-workers (who I can't sway away from Toyotas)even if it's a great inconvenience by haggling with a Toyota salesman in their behalf for the best price.Every time I do it, I'm getting frightingly better. It is addictive and the high I get after nailing a really good deal, is so sweet to savor.
 
Finally, congratulations on your getting a RAV4 2004 with sideairbags, getting hold of one is like winning the lotto, they are so rare, ALMOST NONEXISTENT (try visiting Toyota delearships here in Maryland, ben to six, and nothing)it would be a collectors item a few years from now.
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Re: [55535432] by robrav4
Nov 02, 2004 (7:53 pm)
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Replying to: 55535432 (Nov 02, 2004 5:51 pm)

First let me apologize. I was hasty in my response without understanding the whole story. That is not only awful what the Toyota dealer told you, but unethical as well. Have you tried reporting this incident to Toyota Motor Corp?
 
Secondly, I was not aware that they were difficult to get with side airbags. Luckily for me it was on the lot, and the fact that it was equipped with the side airbags and curtain sold me on it. Maybe I was lucky, because I don't know if they are hard to get in the NY/Conn area.
 
I don't know if you read my comments on the Rav4, but I will tell you that my 2003 Hyundai Sante Fe LX is a better value. That SUV came with side airbags as well and it's standard! Not only that, but for about the same price it came with a powerful V6, leather seats, moonroof and is much more roomy, bigger and comfortable. It has a quieter ride as well. gas mileage is about the same even though the Rav has a smaller V4. The handling is good, but I have to say the Rav handles slightly better. That's the only plus I give the Rav. There are no curtain bags available on the Sante Fe, but I now see your point as to why Toyota is endangering lives by having them available but making them scarce. Now that I understand the whole story, I'm with you. It's a shame...it really is.
 
I wish you the best of luck and keep up the good fight. You certainly have my ear!

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