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Re: Safety of RAV4? [daryll44] by petl
Oct 19, 2004 (6:10 pm)
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You'll get that information in the Consumer Reports. CR doesn't crash test vehicles, they get that information from 2 organizations the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHSTA) and the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS). You can go to their respective web sites for details. The RAV did fair better than the other small SUV's in the accident avoidance test because of its agile handling capabilities and strong brakes.
 
Consumer Reports states that the RAV, when equiped with optional side air bags, is the first vehicle to earn the IIHS's "Best Pick" status for its good results in both frontal-offset and side-crash tests. Please note that CR is only quoting from the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety's test results. Again, you can access this information on their web site. The information will be the same. This IIHS information is unbiased reguarless where it's accessed.
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by revit
Oct 20, 2004 (1:49 pm)
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Consumer Reports states that the RAV, when equiped with optional side air bags, is the first vehicle to earn the IIHS's "Best Pick" status for its good results in both frontal-offset and side-crash tests. Please note that CR is only quoting from the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety's test results.
Again, you are failing to miss the point here, the problem is that Consumer Reports also did not indicate the crash test of non-side airbag RAVs which is what most people have to go with if they purchase a RAV4. Point is often what they don't tell you is more important than what they do tell which is the case here.
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Re: [revit] by tidester HOST
Oct 20, 2004 (4:23 pm)
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Replying to: revit (Oct 20, 2004 1:49 pm)

...you are failing to miss the point here...
 
"Failing to miss" must mean he gets the point! Don't misunderestimate your fellow debaters!
 
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by revit
Oct 20, 2004 (5:38 pm)
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tidester, thanks for the catch.
 
Again, you are failing to see the point (or you are missing the point) here, the problem is that Consumer Reports also did not indicate the crash test of non-side airbag RAVs which is what most people have to go with if they purchase a RAV4. Point is often what they don't tell you is more important than what they do tell which is the case here.
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Re: [55535432] by tidester HOST
Oct 20, 2004 (7:58 pm)
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By the way, is this forum open to car dealers?
 
This forum is open to everyone but is oriented toward helping owners and prospective buyers as well for the enjoyment of afficionados. We have a number of dealers and salespeople participating in the discussions whose input is valuable as long as it doesn't digress into shilling and spreading false information. Members do a really fine job of shining the light onto those who cross the line.
 
By the way, it's best not to characterize the individuals sharing their knowledge and offering opinions. Feel free to challenge positions and statements but let's not make it personal. Thanks!
 
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Re: [tidester] by 55535432
Oct 20, 2004 (9:02 pm)
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Replying to: tidester (Oct 20, 2004 7:58 pm)

Copy.My apologies if I came out personal.
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Maybe someone can help by smllfry1
Oct 20, 2004 (9:06 pm)
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If there is anyone out there who is over the consumer reports issue. And is willing to help a new Rav4 owner.It would be appreciated
  I have a new 2005 Rav4.
The car drives great, looks great. But one major problem . It is extremely uncomfortable to sit in. I cant make the seats comfortable even with the seat adjusters. The arm rest sits too far back for me, to utilize it ..
Does anyone have any thoughts. Can I trade the seats out for Leather.. and would this help. If anyone has leather seats are they comfortable
thanks. I dont know what to do about this. Its only 6 days old, and I dont even want to drive it
thank for help
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Smllfry1 by gogiboy
Oct 21, 2004 (8:40 am)
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I'm not quite sure how to advise you on your dilemma. As you certainly know seat design is more akin to alchemy than hard science. It seems no matter what ergonomic decisions are made, the fact that we humans come in so many shapes and sizes and with different medical maladies means that it's something of a crap shoot finding a good fit.
 
For my fairly standard size:5'10", 152 lbs, quite a few car seats can be adjusted to fit me well with respect to position, but I still get back pain on long trips in all three cars that we own (Rav4, Toyota MR2 and Honda Civic). I have taken to using some of the various aftermarket lower back wedges to make travel more tolerable.
 
I'm sure many folks take a short test drive, fall in love with a car only to discover a week or month later that they are miserable driving it.
 
We have aftermarket leather seats in our 02 Rav. The original owners had them put in. Having driven other 02 and 04 Ravs before purchasing ours I can't see a substantial difference in the way they feel. My preference is actually cloth because it's easier to keep clean looking, doesn't show distress as readily and is much less expensive, but that's me.
 
Besides the arm rest you don't specify why the seats are so uncomfortable. Shape? Back support? height adjustment? Something about the material?

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