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#1634 of 2123 Re: [steve_] by revit Oct 19, 2004 (2:55 pm)
Replying to: steve_ (Oct 18, 2004 6:44 pm) I don't think your conspiracy theory passes the sniff test. And most consumers don't want to pay for safety - the government had to force seat belts on the manufacturers because few people wanted to buy them when they were optional.   Sure would like to see how many RAVs sold last year had side airbags and then compare that to the opinions of Consumer Reports. Replies to this message: robrav4 (Nov 01, 2004 11:40 pm) 55535432 (Nov 02, 2004 5:51 pm) robrav4 (Nov 02, 2004 7:53 pm) and 1 more...
#1636 of 2123 Re: Safety of RAV4? [daryll44] by petl Oct 19, 2004 (6:10 pm)
You'll get that information in the Consumer Reports. CR doesn't crash test vehicles, they get that information from 2 organizations the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHSTA) and the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS). You can go to their respective web sites for details. The RAV did fair better than the other small SUV's in the accident avoidance test because of its agile handling capabilities and strong brakes.   Consumer Reports states that the RAV, when equiped with optional side air bags, is the first vehicle to earn the IIHS's "Best Pick" status for its good results in both frontal-offset and side-crash tests. Please note that CR is only quoting from the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety's test results. Again, you can access this information on their web site. The information will be the same. This IIHS information is unbiased reguarless where it's accessed.
#1637 of 2123 by revit Oct 20, 2004 (1:49 pm)
Consumer Reports states that the RAV, when equiped with optional side air bags, is the first vehicle to earn the IIHS's "Best Pick" status for its good results in both frontal-offset and side-crash tests. Please note that CR is only quoting from the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety's test results. Again, you are failing to miss the point here, the problem is that Consumer Reports also did not indicate the crash test of non-side airbag RAVs which is what most people have to go with if they purchase a RAV4. Point is often what they don't tell you is more important than what they do tell which is the case here. Replies to this message: tidester (Oct 20, 2004 4:23 pm)
#1638 of 2123 Re: [revit] by tidester HOST Oct 20, 2004 (4:23 pm)
Replying to: revit (Oct 20, 2004 1:49 pm) ...you are failing to miss the point here...   "Failing to miss" must mean he gets the point! Don't misunderestimate your fellow debaters!   tidester, host
#1639 of 2123 by revit Oct 20, 2004 (5:38 pm)
tidester, thanks for the catch.   Again, you are failing to see the point (or you are missing the point) here, the problem is that Consumer Reports also did not indicate the crash test of non-side airbag RAVs which is what most people have to go with if they purchase a RAV4. Point is often what they don't tell you is more important than what they do tell which is the case here. Replies to this message: tidester (Oct 20, 2004 7:58 pm) 55535432 (Oct 20, 2004 9:02 pm)
#1641 of 2123 Re: [55535432] by tidester HOST Oct 20, 2004 (7:58 pm)
By the way, is this forum open to car dealers?   This forum is open to everyone but is oriented toward helping owners and prospective buyers as well for the enjoyment of afficionados. We have a number of dealers and salespeople participating in the discussions whose input is valuable as long as it doesn't digress into shilling and spreading false information. Members do a really fine job of shining the light onto those who cross the line.   By the way, it's best not to characterize the individuals sharing their knowledge and offering opinions. Feel free to challenge positions and statements but let's not make it personal. Thanks!   tidester, host Replies to this message: 55535432 (Oct 20, 2004 9:02 pm)
#1642 of 2123 Re: [tidester] by 55535432 Oct 20, 2004 (9:02 pm)
Replying to: tidester (Oct 20, 2004 7:58 pm) Copy.My apologies if I came out personal.
#1643 of 2123 Maybe someone can help by smllfry1 Oct 20, 2004 (9:06 pm)
If there is anyone out there who is over the consumer reports issue. And is willing to help a new Rav4 owner.It would be appreciated   I have a new 2005 Rav4. The car drives great, looks great. But one major problem . It is extremely uncomfortable to sit in. I cant make the seats comfortable even with the seat adjusters. The arm rest sits too far back for me, to utilize it .. Does anyone have any thoughts. Can I trade the seats out for Leather.. and would this help. If anyone has leather seats are they comfortable thanks. I dont know what to do about this. Its only 6 days old, and I dont even want to drive it thank for help Replies to this message: revit (Oct 21, 2004 12:15 pm) robrav4 (Nov 01, 2004 11:13 pm) samantha (Nov 06, 2004 3:56 pm) rickstrat (Nov 11, 2004 4:44 am)

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