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Toyota RAV4, SUV
#1615 of 2127 Re: petl
Oct 16, 2004 (7:30 am)
I've read some of your postings on other message boards. You're a real Honda fan. I'm not knocking it but it's a fact. It appears to interfere with some of your assumptions.
Actually, that is incorrect. I just find it difficult for Consumer Reports to recommend a vehicle as some consumer take EVERYTHING the magazine states for granted although their reviews are inconsistent and conflict with one another.
CR reviews a car like it is an appliance and what it overlooks is usually more important than what they generally emphasize.
You can rely on the personal opinion of any magazine, but then there are the crash test and they are what they are.
Fact is if a consumer is driving a 2004 Toyota RAV4 without side airbags compared to a 2004 Honda CRV with side airbags, the occupants are going to suffer great injury. Side airbags save lives and obviously Toyota is not as concerned with safety as Honda; very disappointing.
#1616 of 2127 Re: 719b
Oct 16, 2004 (7:33 am)
Actually, no one is complaining, but more suprised that consumer don't even think twice what Consumer Reports states in their auto reviews when in reality, their reviews are far from being even accurate and mislead the consumer.
Consumer Reports needs to retract it's recommendation of the Toyota RAV4.
#1617 of 2127 HELP.. Question about my New RAV4
Oct 16, 2004 (4:37 pm)
I just bought a 2005 Rav4
I have noticed, with the window down, there is a squealing sound from the engine, at low speeds.I didnt notice this when test driving, But might have been distracted..
Is this a normal thing.. I love the car
But need to know , if this is something I should be concerned with, or do I just keep the windows up
Thanks if anyone has an answer.
Also the fan seems to turn on very frequently. Much more than my other Toyotas
Normal or Not
PS... It is a fun car
#1618 of 2127 Re: 719b [revit]
Oct 17, 2004 (5:08 am)
Amen, to that.And again I say amen.
I wonder if CR is dipping it's hands at Toyotas deep really realy deep pockets to recommend a Toyota Rav4.
Wonder why the comparo didn't involve the CRV, is it because it will be a no contest with CRV garnering the top honors.CR, are you listening?CR / Toyota you may fool as once and shame on you, but if you can do it twice in a row shame on us.
CR do us a favor, how about a shootout between the CRV 2005 and a RAV 4 2005.You can also include the Sieena 2005and the Odyssey 2005. If your shootout will show the same results with Car and Driver magazine, as well as
Edmunds then I'll shut up my whining mouth.
#1619 of 2127 Re: 719b 
Oct 17, 2004 (2:49 pm)
It is more than obvious from the bias reviews of Consumer Reports that Toyota is definitely contributing some funds. When any source uses terminology in the manner that they write their reviews, it is unfortunately that they present only half of the truth.
Of numerous emails I have sent to them, I have yet to get a response, yet they present themselves as open to consumer feedback and so forth.
#1620 of 2127 Re: HELP.. Question about my New RAV4 [smllfry1]
Oct 17, 2004 (6:34 pm)
My 2004 developed the same squealing sound at 400 miles. It does it when it is cold and then usually disappears when it hot after several miles. The dealer told me it was intake noise, but I'm not convinced because I didn't hear it until 400 miles. I drove another 2004 RAV4 and it had the same noise although not as loud as mine. It's an annoying noise and I would not have purchased the car if I heard it during the test drive. I think it's some kind of a defective part or problem, but my dealer keeps giving me the line that it's normal. If it's normal why wasn't it there when I bought the car? At this point I'm frustrated.
#1621 of 2127 revit and 55535432
Oct 18, 2004 (6:53 am)
Give it a break. I doubt either of you have any intension of ever purchasing a RAV. Your only purpose for posting on this board is to discredit Toyota and Consumer Reports for their method of recommending vehicles (Toyota vehicle's in particular). I'll repeat one final time CR recommends vehicles based on how well they perform and their reliability. Crash test information is also provided in the Consumer Reports to assist readers in their vehicle buying decision.
Unlike CR, the fact remains Car and Driver accepts money from manufacturers and includes more subjective criteria in evaluating vehicles (to arrive at the desired conclusion). Although not perfect I'll accept CR's method before the other car mags. Fortunately, intelligent people can and will think for themselves.
I'll allow you the last biased word, that's it for me on this topic. Oh and by the way, I never disputed the fact that side air bags were beneficial (they are only one of many safety features that should be considered as reported in CR).
Oct 18, 2004 (1:01 pm)
Crash test information is also provided in the Consumer Reports to assist readers in their vehicle buying decision.
Give me a break...they manipulated the actual test results as they always do to favor Toyota. Read the article and compare the terminology that they use...they are obviously bias and now recommend an unsafe vehicle...very disappointing.
Consumer Reports has lost all credibility.
#1623 of 2127 Re: revit and 55535432 [petl]
Oct 18, 2004 (2:40 pm)
Yup I have no intention of buying a RAV 4, even if Toyota comes up with a sweet deal rebate.I have one right now it's a 2003,sky blue, fwd without freakin sideairbags.Toyota Financing gave me a really really hell of a deal, a financing of 16.5% APR. (highway robbery, what do you think)? Thats why I have a first hand eperience of how it performs and how reliable it's been so far. With my first hand experience of a RAV 4, I'll say this again, it rides a tad better, drives a tad better and is a tad better lookin than the Honda CRV 2003, but those features I'll gladly give up for a sideairbag, a simple LIFESAVING LIMB SPARING PEACE OF MIND GIVING SIDEAIRBAG.
I'm not out to descredit Toyota, am just a concerned consumer merely stating a about my suspicions of Toyota and CR in cahoots to sway customers to their not so safe top dollar products. I's a free country you know, if a potential car buyer doesn't believe what I say in this forum, or believe it, it's his/her choice.
It is my noble intentention as a health care worker who have seen a lot of missing/ mangled bodyparts that I may spare a person or two the pain of loosing someone, or see a loveone suffer just because he /she choose a vehicle which is less safer the RAV 4 than the many other options out their.
Oct 18, 2004 (6:44 pm)
I don't think your conspiracy theory passes the sniff test. And most consumers don't want to pay for safety - the government had to force seat belts on the manufacturers because few people wanted to buy them when they were optional.
Maybe you should start your crusade with motorcycles?