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So you're gonna wait until 2006 for your next vehicle, even though you think you're driving a coffin on wheels? If you really believe that, and you're that concerned, trade to something safer today. Don't wait. Wouldn't that be the smart, safe thing to do?
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Replying to: suvshopper4 (Oct 13, 2004 7:09 am) Does anyone have any idea if I could trade in my RAV4 and lease a CRV, or maybe a pickup with side-airbags V6 only manual or AT is ok. I'll be keeping it for two years till that SUT comes out so reliability ain't an issue for me. Any suggestions please, asap. I'm devoting this entire weekend to dispose my RAV 4 C O F F I N of a joke. Thanks in advance for all the responses. |
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CU also did not recommend an Acura SUV (not the MDX) a few years ago. I think they even had a photo of it tipping on three wheels on the cover. My recollection is that CU was sued by Acura, but eventually prevailed in court. Maybe someone else remembers. I agree with Revit about CU's methodology as far as recommending new cars. If your bottom line is safety it is easy to get those figures from the various insurance and Government agencies who rank the performance of most cars/truck/suvs. The best way to get the attention of Toyota of America is to complain to your dealer and/or refuse to but a Rav4 without side airbags. I don't blame Toyota for failing to include them when they were a much rarer option on most all cars except luxury models. However, I do think now is the time for action. |
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"Does anyone have any idea if I could trade in my RAV4 and lease a CRV, or maybe a pickup with side-airbags V6 only manual or AT is ok." Why not?? |
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You can do whatever you wish. It's your money. For the record, there have been documented incidents (RAVWorld) where the RAV (without side air bags) was also totalled and the occupents escaped serious injury. There are many deciding factors that determine the outcomes of accidents "speed, angle of impact, size of other vehicle or structure, seatbelt worn (probably more important than supplementary restraint systems), the list goes on. Peace of mind is not a guarantee but it will cost money.
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Replying to: petl (Oct 13, 2004 10:48 am) That is who I was quoting, from his earlier post. I don't view my side airbag-less RAV4 as a coffin on wheels. And I intend to keep it for another 10+ years. -ss4 |
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Replying to: smpool (Oct 12, 2004 9:08 am) |
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Replying to: petl (Oct 13, 2004 10:48 am) Refer to the actual crash test at Insurance Institute for Highway Safety. |
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I apologize. I did direct my comments to the wrong poster. It appears that the poster is looking for a reason to unload the RAV. Nothing wrong with that. However there is an old expression "be careful what you wish for". The RAV is an excellent altenative to the large SUV. Unfortunately we are living in world where big is better. The RAV would probably fair well in a collision with most cars and may not against larger vehicles (logic). I also want to correct some information in my earlier posting #1590. The vehicle was the Isuzu Trooper not the Susuki. Isuzu made a similar vehicle for Honda (prior to Honda manufacturing their own SUV). The lawsuit was dropped by Isuzu. Variety is good. It would be boring if everyone liked the same things or if everyone thought the same way. |
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"Peace of mind may not be a guarantee, by side airbags on the Toyota RAV4 are not really available; contrary to what Consumer Reports would have you believe." CR is just stating what Toyota is claiming. If side air are not available in your area. Talk to Toyota. "Refer to the actual crash test at Insurance Institute for Highway Safety." I frequently do. If you would have read my posting that is precisely what I stated. CR does not crash test vehicles but they print the results of the organizations (including the IIHS) that do. The information is there to help people decide which vehicle best suits their needs. I guess you missed the section in the Consumer Reports where it states that electric stability control (ESC) is standard this year on the RAV, A first for a small SUV. I've read some of your postings on other message boards. You're a real Honda fan. I'm not knocking it but it's a fact. It appears to interfere with some of your assumptions. Don't knock CR for rating the RAV and the Matrix higher than the CR-V. Although not perfect, I'll rely on CR before other car mags for all vehicle related information. |
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