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#5 of 2067 Paul156 by webbd Dec 26, 2000 (1:23 pm)
You didn't state how much or to what extent you offroad. Like how did the shift rod get bent?   If these problems occurred independently of your own actions, then I would say it sounds like poor workmanship on behalf of the dealer. Once fixed, it shouldn't happen again. (Should have never happened in the first place, is my opinion.)   Do you only let the dealership work on your truck? I do because I find a tendency among other mechanics to scoff at or dislike toyota or "foreign" trucks as they call them, and hence my service suffers because of this.   I would try a new dealership, if at all possible. If you don't live where this is possible, then contact Toyota directly. Eventually you'll talk to someone who will get the problem fixed for you and correctly.   Hope this helps.
#6 of 2067 Help - Problem that Toyota can't fix! 1998 Tacoma 4x4 by sr54x4lemon Jan 03, 2001 (1:59 pm)
Help!   I'm extremely frustrated with my dealership, and my Tacoma, beause of Toyota's inability to fix a very annoying problem FOUR different times. The service manager eventually told me to call Toyota, and take the issue to arbitration - what a joke that was - the arbitration company is on Toyota's payroll. Since Toyota didn't make any "attempts" to fix it (they can't - they don't know what's causing it) arbitration didn't apply. Full circle, and my truck STILL isn't right. Any thoughts, ideas, comments or suggestions are sincerely appreciated:   1998 Tacoma SR5 4x4 ex cab, auto tranny - the problem occurs after braking to a complete stop. When you remove your foot from the brake, a very solid 'thud' occurs, and it feels as if someone has bumped you from the rear. Both the drive selector (auto) and transfer case shifter visibly jump when this occurs. The harder you break, when coming to a stop, the worse the 'thud' is when you release the brake peddle. If I stop very gradually, the problem does not occur. (On two occaisions, I've had emergency situtions where I've virtually stood on the brake peddle to avoid a collision (I live in Northern VA - people drive crazy here!). In both cases, I came to a complete stop, took my foot off of the brake to begin to acellerate, and the truck acted as if it were in neutral. Within a second or two, the drive train re-engaged while the RPMs were still up, the tires chirped, and I found myself 3-5 feet forward. Not good at a busy intersection I have not been able to recreate the problem this to extreme, so this particuliar issue could essentially be ANOTHER, unrelated problem.)   I've tolerated this for 1.5 years, and I'm at my wits end. The only other option I know of, is to have a friend drive it to reproduce the problem and have a look see for myself from under the truck when he takes his foot off of the brake.   Anyone have any ideas or hear of a similar problem before? I'm pretty handy with a tool box and will try most anything at this point.   Thanks! Ted Replies to this message: billbeau (Nov 04, 2005 12:11 pm) morgan5 (Nov 28, 2005 6:46 am)
#7 of 2067 trade it in quick by barlitz Jan 03, 2001 (2:36 pm)
Take it to the dealer you purchased it from and trade it in,From everybody elses opinion Toyota's are supposed to be pretty reliable,chances of 2 bad ones should be slim.
#8 of 2067 by quadrunner500 Jan 03, 2001 (2:49 pm)
Oh my gosh...Barlitz back from the big dig. That quad...he got a memory that don't rest!!! Wonder what he's drivin' now, had lightning, then F250 LD, now probably driving a Tacoma? Nah...
#9 of 2067 sr54X4lemon by sebring95 Jan 03, 2001 (4:27 pm)
I've heard conflicting stories about what causes this, but it doesn't just happen to toyota. Typically it's more common in 4X4's with automatics. I've heard a few Tacoma owners complaining about this, as well as Jeep GC (there is a forum just for the thud issue), and my Jeep Cherokee does it as well. My grandpa is a service manager for a Dodge dealerhip, and he says it's likely the transmission shifting into first a bit late. Dodge had a big problem with that in their cars awhile back, most noticable if you did a very slow california stop and then gassed it. When you get back on the gas, it downshifted really hard into first causing the thud/bump feel.   Another thought is axle wrap. Basically the geometry of the vehicle during a hard brake puts pressure on the drivetrain causing the thud. Once you release the brake, this releases the pressure through the axle/driveshafts. The harder you break, the more pressure built up in the suspension.   Personally, I think it's the latter because of how my Jeep does it.   Try manually downshifting to first during braking (that way you know it's in 1st before you come to a stop). If it still does it it's axle wrap and more or less a characteristic of driving a truck.   I've only got 3000 miles on the Jeep, and I have no intention of having the dealer look at it. Nothing else is strange about the handling/ride/drivability so it really doesn't bother me. Plus there isn't really much that can fix it that I'm aware of.
#10 of 2067 SR5 4x4 concerns by amora Jan 03, 2001 (4:38 pm)
Try calling DOWNEY TOYOTA in So. California. For over 20 years they have serviced and given expert advice on all Toyota 4x4 vehicles. Check your off road mags and local areas. Downey was awesome in correcting minor annoyances on my '77 Landcruiser and have helped my buddies who've owned 4x4 Toyotas...they are suspension experts...   Good luck
#11 of 2067 4X4 automatics and clunking by superglide Jan 05, 2001 (2:59 pm)
I've had a bunch of 4X4s, mostly Toyota and Chevy, and have noticed similar problems upon hard braking. I've always attributed it to all the u joints these vehicles have. I specifically remember taking a test drive in a new Nissan V6 4X4 with a 5 speed, probably about 1995. There was so much slop in the drive train because of all the u joints, I literally couldn't wait to get out of it! I've also had 9 Corvettes, from the late 60s-early 70s. Same problem with them... too many u joints... constant clunking. I just bought a new Prerunner V6 (2WD automatic), and it doesn't do the clunking thing that my other Toyota 4X4s did... whatever that means.
#12 of 2067 Clutch problem by romkat Jan 05, 2001 (4:32 pm)
Having a problem with clutch on Taco ma TRY 4x4 1999. After driving in a deep snow, feel smell of burning clutch. H4 or L4 no difference. Interesting, are anybody had the same experience
#13 of 2067 sr54x4lemon by 2000pre Jan 07, 2001 (4:04 pm)
I would think that it is axle wrap. The Tacoma rear leaf springs are too soft, they let the axle rotate slightly while braking. Then once you start off again, the axle jumps back into position. I have heard people adding leaf springs in the rear to fix this. Rancho makes some that are called AAL, Add-A-Leaf. They run about $40. I am considering this, since I have the same problem.   I own a 2000 Toyota Tacoma Xtracab PreRunner V6. I love this truck, I have about 9,000 miles on it with no problems. I wouldn't consider the axle wrap a problem, just annoying. I like the V6 power, ride height, and looks. Hope this helps.
#14 of 2067 Questions about 2001 Tacoma 4x4 V-6/5-speed. by jeffer2 Jan 08, 2001 (4:30 am)
I'm thinking about trading my car in on a new 4x4. A Tacoma with the V-6 & 5-speed is one on my short list. Any info people here could give me would be greatly appreciated. I've read about the thuds and clunks people are experiencing with interest. Do the 2001s have this clunking problems too? Any option I should make sure I get on a Tacoma? I live in Wisconsin so I have to deal with the snow and cold. I'm not sure if I'll take the truck off-road. If I do this, it will be my first Toyota, first 4x4, and first pick up. Thanks you. - Jeffer2

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