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Re: Can someone help me with this? [steve_] by jimbres
Oct 10, 2009 (8:46 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Oct 10, 2009 7:33 am)

I beg to differ about Linux. It's an awful option for the casual user who just wants to get online. Just trying to hunt down drivers can take hours and hours, and your old printer or whatever still may never work.
 
I hear ya, Steve. You've pretty much described my experiences with Linux before I found Ubuntu. (I know - this makes me sound like someone who knocks on doors & tries to sell religious magazines.)
 
I'm not a Linux zealot out to lynch Bill Gates. I like Windows & have no plans to dump it. My main box (homebuilt) runs XP & will be upgraded to 7 after the holidays. (I save this stuff for dreary January weekends.) But Ubuntu is just the ticket for that old machine in your basement that you inherited from Aunt Tillie. Try Ubuntu on it. Less than an hour after you pop in the installation CD, you'll be online.
 
Give it a shot. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
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Re: Can someone help me with this? [jimbres] by steve_ HOST
Oct 10, 2009 (8:56 am)
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Replying to: jimbres (Oct 10, 2009 8:46 am)

I dunno. I have two old laptops that I keep meaning to part out on eBay, plus a mobo and tons of parts out in the garage, and I don't think I have the energy to fool with it again. The last time I tried one flavor of it, I rolled the plain vanilla Linksys router driver into the build and it still wouldn't find the router ... and so I couldn't get online to update anything else. Way too frustrating.
 
On the other hand, I got a new laptop last Spring with Vista on it and it works fine. I don't understand all the fuss and wish I had upgraded from XP lots earlier.
 
7 is great (well, mostly, lol); been running it for months now, and have my preorder in so hopefully I can get the final late in the month.
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Monte Carlo by kkoehler
Oct 10, 2009 (7:21 pm)
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I have a 1972 Monte Carlo that I would like to sell. There's an emblem on the car that says 454 SS. Problem is, everything I've read about this car says GM didn't offer the SS package on the '72 Monte Carlo. Did some previous owner stick this on the car or did GM build a few of these?
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Re: Monte Carlo [kkoehler] by steve_ HOST
Oct 10, 2009 (8:18 pm)
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Replying to: kkoehler (Oct 10, 2009 7:21 pm)

Try posting in the Chevrolet Monte Carlos of the 1970s discussion.
 
Or maybe the Classic? Collectible? Special Interest? Just Old? one.
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Re: Can someone help me with this? [jimbres] by mac24
Oct 11, 2009 (5:37 am)
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Replying to: jimbres (Oct 10, 2009 8:46 am)

I beg to differ about Linux. It's an awful option for the casual user who just wants to get online. Just trying to hunt down drivers can take hours and hours, and your old printer or whatever still may never work.
  
I hear ya, Steve. You've pretty much described my experiences with Linux before I found Ubuntu. (I know - this makes me sound like someone who knocks on doors & tries to sell religious magazines.)

 
I'm so with Steve on this one, and I'm especially against Ubuntu!
 
I don't write code but I'm sufficiently computer literate that I usually end up fixing other peoples problems, installing networks, and building the occasional machine.
I recently bought a Dell Mini 9 which came with Ubuntu preloaded, but I had to remove it because it couldn't reliably cope with a WEP-PSK password of more than six characters (I think sixty nine is the standard max).
Dell's Ubuntu support insisted it was a hardware problem, so I ended up replacing virtually the entire machine piece by piece as Dell sent it to me, each time with same negative result.
I ended getting an entirely new machine sent to me, on which I installed XP (after learning how to install it from a USB stick as the Mini 9 has no optical drive), and the problem was solved.
The whole experience caused me to do a lot of research on Ubuntu, which convinced me that I'd rather play ball with a rabid pitbull than try and install and use Ubuntu for anything practical.
 
As a hobby it's fine, but trying to find operational drivers for any but the most common items of hardware is a complete waste of time.
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Re: Can someone help me with this? [mac24] by jimbres
Oct 11, 2009 (8:30 am)
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Replying to: mac24 (Oct 11, 2009 5:37 am)

Jeez, what an awful experience! Can't blame you for not wanting to have anything to do with Ubuntu after that.
 
Possibly because God looks after fools & drunks, my Ubuntu experiences have been uniformly good. (I know that brains & good looks have nothing to with it.)
 
At the beginning of the summer, I bought a cheap Asus netbook (the 1000HE) for casual use while swilling beer on the back deck. The Asus shipped with WinXP, but I decided to repartition it & install Ubuntu 9.04 Netbook Remix - partly because I didn't want to spend money on AV software but mainly to satisfy my curiosity. The installation took a bit over an hour & went smoothly. Ubuntu accepted my 20-character WPA-PSK password without protest & immediately connected to my network.
 
During the 4 months I've had the Asus, I've booted into XP only twice - primarily to download & apply any new updates. Netbook Remix runs like a champ on this machine, & I've had no network issues. (Funny thing - I've found that the fastest & most responsive browser for my Asus is Opera. Much snappier than Firefox.)
 
Still, I'll admit that Ubuntu's wireless network connectivity is still rough around the edges & needs more work. It works on most notebooks, but when it doesn't, it's a nightmare. What happened to you shouldn't happen to anyone. All I can say to you is wait a couple of years & try it again.
 
When it comes to operating systems, I'm a best-tool-for-the-job guy. My main box runs Windows, while the Dell, which runs Ubuntu, has been our music server for the past 3+ years. Meanwhile, my wife, who's an avid photographer, uses (& loves) an iMac.
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Re: Can someone help me with this? [jimbres] by mac24
Oct 11, 2009 (2:35 pm)
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Replying to: jimbres (Oct 11, 2009 8:30 am)

When it comes to operating systems, I'm a best-tool-for-the-job guy. My main box runs Windows, while the Dell, which runs Ubuntu, has been our music server for the past 3+ years. Meanwhile, my wife, who's an avid photographer, uses (& loves) an iMac.
 
I was just letting off steam rather than making a reasoned argument.
 
I'm a Windows user rather than a Windows fan, but because I'm so used to it I find setting it up and solving its problems fairly intuitive. It also helps that because of the enormous user base there is so much in the way of software, drivers, and information readily available.
 
However, I understand Linux to be a much more stable OS, and it probably really excels in a fixed application like a server, phone system, or media server.
 
I'm currently thinking about putting together a wireless HD PVR with an ATSC tuner and internet access for streaming Netflix/YouTube etc.
It's the thought of finding the appropriate drivers that worries me, rather than the OS itself.
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Re: in UAW news [steve_] by tlong
Oct 14, 2009 (9:36 pm)
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Since there doesn't seem to be any other forum to post this in, and this is an active forum:
 
1 - There is no way to access the forums from the new InsideLine front page, but there was on the the old front page
2 - I tried to post a comment on the Chrysler speeding up redesigns article and even though I was signed in, it said I needed to register (?!)
 
Where are we supposed to put feedback about the site and its design/problems?
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Re: in UAW news [tlong] by steve_ HOST
Oct 14, 2009 (9:57 pm)
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Replying to: tlong (Oct 14, 2009 9:36 pm)

Thanks for noticing.
 
I think some stuff is still being tweaked, but in the meantime, please visit Welcome to the New Inside Line! and either comment there or use the email link there.
 
And there have been some registration bugs so I'll cc this over for review. I was unable to post on Straightline for several days and tweaks two days ago fixed it for me. What browser and OS are you using?
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Re: in UAW news [steve_] by tlong
Oct 15, 2009 (9:25 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Oct 14, 2009 9:57 pm)

Hi Steve, thanks for moving my post.
 
I'm using XP and Firefox.
There seems to be a login problem. I'm logged in (I'm obviously posting right now). When I go to the blogs on the new Inside Line (in the example, the Chrysler speeding up design time article) and try to comment, I have a problem. When I'm reading the blog the top of the page has a "sign out" option, indicating that I am in fact signed in.When I type the comment and hit Submit, I get a message saying that I need to register. And at that point the top of the page option is "sign in", which now means that I'm not signed it!
 
The other item I mentioned was a link to the forums on the front page of InsideLine, like on the old page. I used the InsideLine forums link because the presentation of the topics is different than the CarSpace presentation, and I like the InsideLine presentation better. If you eventually phase out the old InsideLine front page, then I'll have to access the forums via the CarSpace page unless the link is added to the new InsideLine front page.

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