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Replying to: jmonroe (Oct 09, 2009 6:51 pm) I didn't need another Windows box in the house, so I parked it behind the door of my office & forgot about it. Then I began hearing good things about another operating system: Ubuntu Linux. Curious, I downloaded a copy, burned it to a CD & took it for a test drive. (You can try Ubuntu on your PC without installing it to your hard drive.) Liked it so much that I went ahead & installed it. That was over 3 1/2 years ago, & I've had absolutely no problems with it. Ubuntu Linux is easy to install, easy to use & easy to maintain. It's also free. That's right - there's nothing to buy & no need to spend money on security packages like McAfee (which I hate almost as much as I do Osama Bin Laden). The excellent Firefox browser is included in the distro (installation package), & you can install tons of useful (& free!) software. Ubuntu won't work for you if there are Windows-only programs that you can't live without, but it's ideal for general purpose word processing, web browsing & e-mail use. It's also perfect for middle-aged or elderly machines that don't have the juice to run the latest version of Windows but that aren't yet ready to be scrapped. And it's free. You should check it out.
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Replying to: jimbres (Oct 10, 2009 5:55 am) I beg to differ about Linux. It's an awful option for the casual user who just wants to get online. Just trying to hunt down drivers can take hours and hours, and your old printer or whatever still may never work. Windows (or OS X) just works, and finds and install all your hardware. I do a lot of editing and Firefox doesn't support the insert key, which makes it unusable for me. How idiotic is that? Maybe they'll figure it out in this new version?
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Replying to: jimbres (Oct 10, 2009 5:55 am) The one I have is a Model MTC2. A pretty decent box in its day, even has a DVD burner. The excellent Firefox browser is included in the distro (installation package), & you can install tons of useful (& free!) software. After I got my computer back in order (thanks to you), I downloaded Firefox and am using it right now. Something quirky happened when I first down loaded it. It only displayed the side bar of the Edmunds pages in the middle of the screen and nothing I did could correct that. So, I un-installed it and started over again. So far so good and it seems to be faster than IE. Now I just have to convince Mrs.jmonroe to stick with it until she is comfortable with it. She doesn’t like changes. Come to think of it that might explain why she’s kept me around. Ubuntu Linux is easy to install, easy to use & easy to maintain. OK, I’ll keep that in mind but I ‘m just now catching my breath from my computer fiasco of last week. Give a guy a break, will ya? Thanks again for your help. jmonroe |
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Replying to: steve_ (Oct 10, 2009 7:33 am) I hear ya, Steve. You've pretty much described my experiences with Linux before I found Ubuntu. (I know - this makes me sound like someone who knocks on doors & tries to sell religious magazines.) I'm not a Linux zealot out to lynch Bill Gates. I like Windows & have no plans to dump it. My main box (homebuilt) runs XP & will be upgraded to 7 after the holidays. (I save this stuff for dreary January weekends.) But Ubuntu is just the ticket for that old machine in your basement that you inherited from Aunt Tillie. Try Ubuntu on it. Less than an hour after you pop in the installation CD, you'll be online. Give it a shot. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. |
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Replying to: jimbres (Oct 10, 2009 8:46 am) On the other hand, I got a new laptop last Spring with Vista on it and it works fine. I don't understand all the fuss and wish I had upgraded from XP lots earlier. 7 is great (well, mostly, lol); been running it for months now, and have my preorder in so hopefully I can get the final late in the month. |
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I have a 1972 Monte Carlo that I would like to sell. There's an emblem on the car that says 454 SS. Problem is, everything I've read about this car says GM didn't offer the SS package on the '72 Monte Carlo. Did some previous owner stick this on the car or did GM build a few of these?
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Replying to: kkoehler (Oct 10, 2009 7:21 pm) Or maybe the Classic? Collectible? Special Interest? Just Old? one. |
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Replying to: jimbres (Oct 10, 2009 8:46 am) I hear ya, Steve. You've pretty much described my experiences with Linux before I found Ubuntu. (I know - this makes me sound like someone who knocks on doors & tries to sell religious magazines.) I'm so with Steve on this one, and I'm especially against Ubuntu! I don't write code but I'm sufficiently computer literate that I usually end up fixing other peoples problems, installing networks, and building the occasional machine. I recently bought a Dell Mini 9 which came with Ubuntu preloaded, but I had to remove it because it couldn't reliably cope with a WEP-PSK password of more than six characters (I think sixty nine is the standard max). Dell's Ubuntu support insisted it was a hardware problem, so I ended up replacing virtually the entire machine piece by piece as Dell sent it to me, each time with same negative result. I ended getting an entirely new machine sent to me, on which I installed XP (after learning how to install it from a USB stick as the Mini 9 has no optical drive), and the problem was solved. The whole experience caused me to do a lot of research on Ubuntu, which convinced me that I'd rather play ball with a rabid pitbull than try and install and use Ubuntu for anything practical. As a hobby it's fine, but trying to find operational drivers for any but the most common items of hardware is a complete waste of time.
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Replying to: mac24 (Oct 11, 2009 5:37 am) Possibly because God looks after fools & drunks, my Ubuntu experiences have been uniformly good. (I know that brains & good looks have nothing to with it.) At the beginning of the summer, I bought a cheap Asus netbook (the 1000HE) for casual use while swilling beer on the back deck. The Asus shipped with WinXP, but I decided to repartition it & install Ubuntu 9.04 Netbook Remix - partly because I didn't want to spend money on AV software but mainly to satisfy my curiosity. The installation took a bit over an hour & went smoothly. Ubuntu accepted my 20-character WPA-PSK password without protest & immediately connected to my network. During the 4 months I've had the Asus, I've booted into XP only twice - primarily to download & apply any new updates. Netbook Remix runs like a champ on this machine, & I've had no network issues. (Funny thing - I've found that the fastest & most responsive browser for my Asus is Opera. Much snappier than Firefox.) Still, I'll admit that Ubuntu's wireless network connectivity is still rough around the edges & needs more work. It works on most notebooks, but when it doesn't, it's a nightmare. What happened to you shouldn't happen to anyone. All I can say to you is wait a couple of years & try it again. When it comes to operating systems, I'm a best-tool-for-the-job guy. My main box runs Windows, while the Dell, which runs Ubuntu, has been our music server for the past 3+ years. Meanwhile, my wife, who's an avid photographer, uses (& loves) an iMac.
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Replying to: jimbres (Oct 11, 2009 8:30 am) I was just letting off steam rather than making a reasoned argument. I'm a Windows user rather than a Windows fan, but because I'm so used to it I find setting it up and solving its problems fairly intuitive. It also helps that because of the enormous user base there is so much in the way of software, drivers, and information readily available. However, I understand Linux to be a much more stable OS, and it probably really excels in a fixed application like a server, phone system, or media server. I'm currently thinking about putting together a wireless HD PVR with an ATSC tuner and internet access for streaming Netflix/YouTube etc. It's the thought of finding the appropriate drivers that worries me, rather than the OS itself. |
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