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Chevrolet Impala, Sedan
Feb 06, 2002 (1:19 pm)
Hmmmmm. Ken, if the Commodore becomes available in the US, virtually unchanged from the Australian version, then it will be a very tough decision between the German iron and the Aussie/Germanic Iron. The Commodore is essentially a Cadillac Catera with a V8, RWD and an available 6-speed manual tranny. The V8 in the Commodore SS is the same beast found under the hood of the Corvette coupe and the Camaro SS.
This car will be a true replacement to the 1994-96 Impala SS. Perhaps Chevy will get it and it will be rebadged Impala SS.
V8, 300HP+ power going to the rear wheels on a sedan weighing less than 3,500 pounds is way too tempting.
Bob Lutz is working hard at restoring GM's performance credentials in North America.
Would you let go of your Bonneville?
Feb 06, 2002 (1:20 pm)
You know what you need? An XJR.
Feb 06, 2002 (1:23 pm)
XJR...hmmm not bad either. I like Jag's but they are not among my top 5 list of dream cars to own. I like the XJS sedan and the current convertible, and of course all the old ones with their Lucas electrical systems.
I dislike the cheaper Jag's of the Ford era...the new X-type and the S-type.
Feb 06, 2002 (1:32 pm)
I understand. From the front, the S-type is gorgeous. From the back, it looks like a Ford Taurus. I just figured you'd like the XJR, a 370HP RWD luxury sedan. They really are sweet. If you're not doing anything on a Sunday afternoon, stop by your local Jag dealer, and check one out.
Shoot. You can even get a 6 cylinder model, circa 1995, for under $18K, maybe more like $15-16K, or a 96 for under $20K. Even with a six, it's still got 322 horses.
Feb 06, 2002 (1:40 pm)
That's the kind of thing they need to sell here. Not just the power aspect. It's the whole damn package. GM has cars with that power here already. They're either an exotic sports car like the Corvette, or an antiquated, uncomfortable, and poorly built relic like the current Camaro.
The current US GM entry in the performance sedan market? The horrifically ugly CTS. It's practically an abomination. Has anyone seen the new commercial with that monstrocity cruising next to a beautiful classic convertible Caddy? It only makes the CTS look that much uglier.
It makes you wonder if BMW, MB, and Ford/Jaguar/Volvo don't have double agents working in the top ranks of GM.
Feb 06, 2002 (1:43 pm)
I am not 100% sold on the new CTS, not even 50%. The Sigma platform is very good but I am afraid GM has missed the mark again with the CTS. The CTS is a Ron Zarella era product, so Bob Lutz needs to fix it beginning with the looks.
On the other hand, that Holden Commodore SS is the real deal. I want one!!
#8055 of 13621 bz4 Yea, I'd call it...
Feb 06, 2002 (2:08 pm)
1977-1990..even though the sheet metal changed,(I geuss that 1980 change was MILD?) the car really did not, you could put one side by side and see the same basic car in more ways than one. save for a few updates, it was then 1991-1996, the 1996 looked a little different than the '91 with the open wheel wells in the back, still it was a tub, I followed 2 '95-96 Caprices to work today on the highway, man were they ugly, I bet they had 1,000,000 miles on them between both of them, they seem not to want 1998+ Crown Vics around here as far a Taxi's, they use old 1980's Caprice Estate Wagons and Sedans that are falling apart at the seems and the newer ones are just as bad...looking at the bull pen at the airport taxi stand is like you are standing in 1985 or something, no newer cabs....Just worn out beaters.. that are Orange,Green,Pink or whatever obnoxious color they can find at Big Lots to re-paint them,paint them and re-paint them again....Don
#8056 of 13621 Commodore is a beauty
Feb 06, 2002 (2:13 pm)
And CTS is not. Where has gracefulness gone in Cadillac? The new 'edgy' design doesn't appeal to me at all and the CTS interior is too spartan.
I'd like to see more of that Commodore.
#8057 of 13621 CTS
Feb 06, 2002 (2:45 pm)
I kind of like the CTS. I think it is a little too narrow. Another 3 inches in width would help.
Also the wheel wells need to opened up. It makes the tires look too small.
I also feel the olds aurora was made too narrow.
It has less room inside than the intrigue.